Motivations for Joining DEs (Was: Bullying)

a_svirn a_svirn at yahoo.com
Tue Oct 4 13:09:18 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 141136

Nora wrote:
> >>> 
> Not if you combine the question of necessarily/sufficient/use with 
> the problem of the violation of subjectivity, mentioned upthread.  
AK 
> and Imperius always violate a person's right to be himself, 
> necessarily (and sufficiently, to boot); I argue that this, in the 
> world of the Potterverse, violates the condition of 'good'.  It 
ain't 
> a deeply relativistic world, I think.  I assumed that these later 
> conditions were being stacked onto the earlier ones, as that was the 
> problem we were thinking about.

Obliviate violates one's subjectivity even more than Imperius. It robs 
one not only of one's will, but of one's identity. If you've been 
subjected to the memory-modifying charm, how can you be sure that you 
are what you think you are? 

a_svirn






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