[HPforGrownups] A Cold Equation (was Re: The Trial Of Severus Snape)

Kemper iam.kemper at gmail.com
Sun Oct 9 23:50:17 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 141358

On 10/9/05, justcarol67 <justcarol67 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Sherry wrote:
> <snip>... here's a hypothetical for all of you who believe that
> Dumbledore's death was for the good of everyone. What if it's proven
> that Snape did indeed murder Dumbledore for his own reasons? if you
> can say that the death of Dumbledore was for the greater good and
> calmly believe that, then if Snape is shown to be a murderer either
> for Voldemort's sake or his own, what should happen to him? Would you
> then also advocate for his death as just punishment? i do
> > not.
> Carol responds:
> Okay, I'll play along even though you didn't accept my hypothetical
> proposition and consider the possibility that *if* Snape had no choice
> and was acting for the greater good he should be forgiven. (It was
> only an "if.") <smile>
>
> Anyway, here goes:
>
> *If* Snape turns out to be just a murderer and a traitor who's been on
> Voldemort's side all along, I'll burn my books. ...snipped...
> *If* he's OFH! and killed Dumbledore for no other reason than to save
> himself (and saved Draco only to prevent the UV from kicking in rather
> than because he cared about him), then everything depends on whether
> he redeems himself later. ...snipped...
> But *if* he's Dumbledore's man, trapped into a terrible choice by the
> UV and by Dumbledore's decision to fly to the tower rather than
> remaining at the Three Broomsticks while Harry ran to Snape for help
> (*that* IMO is Dumbledore's huge mistake), then I think his own
> remorse will be sufficient punishment for all his misdeeds...
> ...snipped...
> Come on now, Sherry. *If* Snape was acting for the greater good when
> he killed Dumbledore and *if* he really had no choice, wouldn't you
> forgive him? It's only a hypothetical proposition, and I went along
> with yours. <smiles sweetly>

 .
Kemper smiling as sweetly to Sherry:
I agree with the consequences of every condition that Carol has addressed
including the last which Sherry has avoided thus far. (Friendly wave)
.
Sherry also wrote:

First of all, we do not know that Dumbledore was dying. We know he was
sick, but we have no *canon* to say he would not or could not recover.
.
Kemper gives canon:
Diary!Horcrux would have killed Ginny had the Chosen One not destroyed it.
.
Ring!Horcrux curse. It left Dumbledore's hand withered and Dumbledore
suggested that his condition would have been worse (dead?) had he not gone
to Healer!Snape.
.
I find it difficult to believe that any of the other Horcruxes are not
protected with some sort of killing curse/potion, including the
Locket!Horcrux.
.
But let's assume RAB changed the drink after he stole the locket and ask
ourselves, Why wouldn't RAB attempt to kill the Dark Lord? It seems if he
did change the potion, it would be to put an unexpected killing potion in
its place. Either way, Dumbledore drank something that in all likelihood was
designed to kill.
.
.
Kemper, who also thinks Pippin's comments up-thread are quite poignant and
which I look forward to Sherry's response as it has nothing to do with
Snape.


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