Reasonable Doubt.

[M.Clifford]

No: HPFGUIDX 141376


> "M.Clifford" <Aisbelmon at h...> wrote:
> 
> > if Dumbledore had fallen, slumped, 
> > at the moment the curse touched his
> > body with a blank, empty expression
> > in his staring eyes, then it would 
> > be unequivocally decided that the 
> > Avada Kedavra was the cause of death. 
> 
> I submit that only one time have we seen Avada Kedavra work like you
> describe above,


Valky:
I counter submit that we have seen twice (or is it three times ?Frank
Bryce?), four if you count Fawkes, that the effect of a successful
Avada Kedavra on a living being is instantaneous death without
embellishment. And that we have more than one account of a successful
Avada Kedavra leaving the victim with an open-eyed tortured expression. 

eggplant:
> at other times the victims had a look of terror on
> their face not a blank expression,

Valky:
Yes I apologise, I worded that incorrectly, when I said blank and
empty I had meant that to refer purely to the victims eyes, as per the
description of Cedrics empty void in his eyes after he had been AK'ed.
I agree that the facial expression of a victim has not been described
as blank before.



eggplant:
> on another occasion it left a
> physical mark on the intended victim, 
<snip and insert>
> another time it destroyed 
> a house,

Valky:
There are clearly stated but unspecified, additional and extremely
unique factors involved in this case, hence it is incorrect to compare it.


eggplant:
> sometimes it causes absolutely no damage, yet another time it 
> smashed a very large statue. 


Valky:
It causes no visible damage to the living cases we are shown (except
that it destroys the life) but why should I compare this to its effect
on an inanimate object?


Valky previously:
> > Dumbledore is thrown bodily from the tower


eggplant:
> Well of course he is, JKR isn't about to let a very major character
> just close his eyes and die, he was after all in the highest tower 
> at Hogwarts so he must fall dramatically off. 

Valky:
That is a fair statement, and I do appreciate the point of view. 
However, the fact remains that it equally is cause for reasonable
doubt that Snape cast an effective canonical Avada Kedavra on
Dumbledore. I dont see how either POV is more or less reasonable than
the other.

Valky