Every killing tears the soul?

[ellecain]

No: HPFGUIDX 141490

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Michell Thitathan 
<h2so3f at y...> wrote:
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> Lupinlore wrote: "The idea that Snape and Dumbledore cooked up 
this possibility in advance is thoroughly unbelievable.  I'm not 
saying JKR definitely won't do it, but to do so would be the worst 
kind of far-fetched conspiracy theory mumbo-jumbo.  For one thing it 
would amount to Dumbledore asking Snape to tear his own soul, 
something I don't think DD as he has been presented to us would ever 
do (and yes, I think that using the AK to kill DD would amount to 
Snape tearing his own soul even if it was set up in advance with 
DD's blessing). 

> CH3ed now: I'm wondering if all killings tears the soul. 
That 'canon' was provided by Slug in a specific setting -he was 
telling young LV about how a horcrux is created (and one is created 
by someone pretty evil because not only must he kill someone, he 
must intentionally take advantage of the tearing of his soul by 
making a horcrux out of it). <SNIP>

Elyse:
I have asked this question before as well. This is precisely my 
contention with the whole Killing-tears-the-soul so called "canon".
Slughorn told Riddle that in order to create a horcrux, you have to 
murder someone. This was so that you could use the death of another 
person to harness your soul piece to the object.Nowhere is it said 
that *every* killing rips the soul.

And if this was the case, Voldemort would have his soul in any 
number of pieces by now. He has loads of people. GH itself would not 
have happened. Lily and James' deaths had already torn his soul. The 
significance of the magical power inherent in the number seven would 
be lost.

I also like the point raised about indirect killings ripping the 
soul. Does this mean that the bridge that was destroyed by the DE's 
at the start of the book killing a lot of Muggles caused their souls 
to be broken down into fragments? Did Emmeline Vance and Amelia 
Bones contribute to the number of torn soul pieces in the WW?

Elyse, who has a rather morbid interest in the mechanics of soul 
splitting