[HPforGrownups] DD Saw the Future?-- Was:Re: Dumbledore's pleading (longish)

[Michell Thitathan]

No: HPFGUIDX 141476


Lupinlore wrote: "The idea that Snape and Dumbledore cooked up this possibility in advance is thoroughly unbelievable.  I'm not saying JKR definitely won't do it, but to do so would be the worst kind of far-fetched conspiracy theory mumbo-jumbo.  For one thing it would amount to Dumbledore asking Snape to tear his own soul, something I don't think DD as he has been presented to us would ever do (and yes, I think that using the AK to kill DD would amount to Snape tearing his own soul even if it was set up in advance with DD's blessing). It requires DD to foresee the future, a situation that would make him much more an expert at divination than Trelawney's famous great-great-grandmother."  <Snip....a lot>

 

 

CH3ed now: I'm wondering if all killings tears the soul. That 'canon' was provided by Slug in a specific setting -he was telling young LV about how a horcrux is created (and one is created by someone pretty evil because not only must he kill someone, he must intentionally take advantage of the tearing of his soul by making a horcrux out of it). On the other hand do unintentional or involuntary killings actually tear the soul? If I accidentally dislodge a stone on a hiking trail and it falls down and hit someone on the head without my knowledge, say, would that death tear my soul? Does one has to commit a first or second degree murder to tear the soul? Or if ones soul is torn if one cause someone else's death regardless of intention or ones awareness? (this is not saying that Snape didn't mean to kill DD. I think DD did plead for him to sacrify DD... pleaded because Snape didn't want to do it).

 

   Also, I'm wondering if DD didn't really have a mean to foresee the future in some circumstances. He seemed to know how things would turn out so well in PoA, both during the actual time and the repeat time in that book. He seemed to know when to stall Buckbeak's would be executioner from going out to the pumpkins patch before Harry had successfully led the hippogriff away, for instance, then in OotP DD told Harry he was "watching from afar" as Harry struggled to repel the dementors and rediscover his godfather. I'm hoping for a full expose in Book VII.

CH3ed 



		
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