Dumbledore's pleading/What Horcruxes Dumbledore and Harry destroyed?

nrenka nrenka at yahoo.com
Wed Oct 12 17:44:14 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 141502

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "pippin_999" <foxmoth at q...> 
wrote:

> Pippin:

> Destroying the horcruxes will not bring Harry any nearer to being
> able to defeat Voldemort in combat -- he will still be an inferior 
> duellist, crippled by his inability to close his mind. 

Okay, this raises a question I've been thinking of, about the 
ultimate denoument.

Can you imagine, Pippin, a scenario in which the final showdown with 
Harry and Voldemort is *not* going to be any kind of super skillz 
dueling situation, but something actually different from the 'kill or 
be killed' scenario?  Snape tells Harry to close his mind, but 
Dumbledore tells us at the end of OotP, in Harry's possession (surely 
the most personal encounter possible with Voldie), that it's his open 
heart that saved him, not his closed mind.

Given the superpowers of love magic in the Potterverse, does Harry 
need to learn how to close his mind, to shut himself off--or could 
our final solution involve the emotions primary over the intellect, 
opening up to somehow conquer?

I surmise that the twisty-turny part of the fandom doesn't much like 
the idea of JKR elevating emotion above intellectual solutions, but I 
can see precedents for it.

<snip>

> If JKR made him sound weak merely to make his death more pathetic, 
> it would be a betrayal, IMO, far more grievous than any treachery 
> in her books.

What kind of betrayal--a thematic one?  That depends on what theme is 
actually going to be pulled out as the correct (by which I mean most 
supported, the implications which are actually realized) one.  After 
all, JKR has True Edge, if I remember correctly.  She wouldn't be 
above hitting us with some genuine pathos.  Your ESE!Lupin theory 
does that, it just displaces it onto another character.  What a nice 
way to get Sevvykins out of a deep moral quandry. :)

-Nora sits inside and ain't going out again today (extra-warm ski 
socks are Dumbledorean in their magnificence)







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