Harry's emotions his strength or his weakness? WAS: Re: Dumbledore's pleading

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Thu Oct 13 16:26:04 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 141542

> Carol responds:
> I do hope you have a nice, tasty recipe for crow, as I'm equally
> confident that Harry *must* follow Snape's advice--stay away from 
Dark
> magic, close your mouth (nonverbal spells), and control your 
emotions.
> Yes, a particular emotion (love) is the key to defeating Voldemort,
> but he's not going to find that path by Crucioing people and seeking
> revenge.

Alla:

Sure I do have it, I always keep it handy, if needed I may even share 
it. :-)

Now, to avoid saying it after every sentence, I will say it now just 
my opinion and speculative at that, but I believe that canon provides 
some hints for it.

IF for  the sake of argument I will agree that Snape WAS giving 
advice, which I am not sure about in the first place, I will have to 
disagree again at least about  the last part. "Controlling his 
emotions" is a question of degree, IMO and actually I don't remember 
Snape saying that Harry should control his emotions, more like 
shutting them down , if I remember the gist of what he was saying 
during Occlumency lessons and I don't think that "shutting emotions 
down" is the way to go for Harry.

Be a bit more in charge , maybe? Being cold and emotionless, I 
seriously doubt it.

Carol: 
> And Voldemort isn't the only person he'll have to do battle with, 
IMO.
> He's not going to defeat Bellatrix with love. He'd better learn how 
to
> duel as well as Snape if he's going to take on DEs who've had time 
to
> recover from Azkaban.

Alla:

Unfortunately, I have to disagree again. There is only one book left. 
I am reasonably confident that Harry will go into final battle with 
the dueling skills he already has, that is especially if he is not 
going back to Hogwarts, IMO. (which I am not 100% sure, but I think 
that the probability is high enough)

He would be concentrating on Horcurxes hunt with Ron and Hermione, 
IMO. I doubt that they will have time to do crash courses in advance 
defense.

I think Harry's heart will play a chief role in Voldemort demease, 
not his dueling skills.

And another prediction of mine is that Neville will finish off Bella, 
not Harry.

Carol:
> As for pain being part of being human, that's absolutely true. But
> it's not the key to defeating Voldemort. It's only a legitimate
> reaction to Sirius Black's death, which is the context in which the
> remark was made.

Alla:

Well, yes of course, but I interpreted Julie's words ( sorry if I 
misinterpreted you, Julie) that Harry was not supposed to be doing 
that ( go half-witted after just witnessing Sirius and Dumbledore's 
death) and I am saying that IMO he is not supposed to do it any other 
way.

Except not trying to use Unforgivables, of course.

But that is why I said that Harry may have to learn to channel his 
negative emotions. I didn't work out the details, but I am sure JKR 
could do something like that if she desires.


Carol: 
> And Snape may not understand Harry at all, but he understands
> Voldemort and the Death Eaters and what is needed to defeat them. He
> is not asking Harry to operate on cold intellect, which would be
> completely out of character. 
<SNIP>
Alla:

Sorry, after Snape speech in OOP I think that is precisely what he 
asked Harry to do. "Fools who wear their emotions on their sleeves"( 
paraphrase). 


Carol:
> *Feeling* led Harry to the MoM on a wild goose chase that ended in
> Sirius Black's death. Harry should not stop feeling or caring, of
> course, but he cannot let his emotions control him. Snape may not be
> able to control his own emotions, but that in itself is evidence 
that
> his advice is good. If Harry ends up like Snape, we'd better kiss 
the
> WW goodbye.


Alla:

Again, if I were sure that Snape is asking Harry only to control his 
emotions, I may have felt differently, but so far I get the 
impression that Snape is asking Harry to get rid of them completely.

And even though feeling indeed lead Harry to MoM, feeling is also 
that saved him from the possession.


JMO,

Alla.







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