Dumbledore's pleading/What Horcruxes Dumbledore and Harry destroyed?

[pippin_999]

No: HPFGUIDX 141644

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "lupinlore" <bob.oliver at c...> wrote:

> To wit, many people very fervently believed that certain aspects of the 
> Harry/Hermione relationship were clues that gave insight into a major 
> plot point, i.e. a developing H/Hr ship.  Others held that these things 
> were in fact red herrings.  Many said if these points were dismissed 
> that would constitute introducing a bunch of Flints.

Pippin:
I am not talking about subjective interpretations, where a piece of toast
is invested with all the significance a lovelorn fan can read into it. There
was nothing, ever, in canon to show that Harry had the slightest physical
attraction to Hermione. There was never any hint that he found Ginny
repulsive in any way, though certainly a lot of readers found her so.

There was only a stubborn hope that if  Harry was going to develop a 
sudden physical attraction to a girl, it would be for
Hermione and not Ginny, because, well, because that's the way some fans
wanted it to be. 

Like some fans wanted Snape to be a vampire <g>. But there was never
any obvious reason in the text to suppose that Snape couldn't be human,
and never any obvious reason in the text to suppose that Harry couldn't
fall in love with little Miss Weasley, despite all the wailing and gnashing.

I am talking about facts, and facts are stubborn things, even in fiction.

There is no obvious reading in which an AK can account for the blood around
Dumbledore's mouth, and no obvious reading in which the appearance of the
moon *before* Lupin transforms can be compatible with a transformation
caused by the chance appearance of the moon.

If those things are not Flints, or JKR choosing to contradict herself for
artistic effect, then they require some explanation in the text. An explanation
consonant with guilty Snape or innocent Lupin can surely be contrived,
but it will take just as much space as an explanation that isn't, and it
won't move the plot forward at all, so why make it necessary in the
first place?

Speaking of which, the murderer of Sirius  must be brought to justice 
and that will take quite as much ink whether it is Bella or Lupin, so I don't 
quite see how the fact that there is only one book remaining is going to 
get Lupin off the hook.

OFH!Snape is going to take a lot of ink, too, to explain why Snape would
take the vow or submit to a master as demanding as Dumbledore. The 
only Snape with a backstory is DDM!Snape --we have
no explanation as to why OFH!Snape would risk his life to watch over
and protect *anybody* or why he wouldn't abandon Dumbledore once
Voldemort was gone and Crouch was making deals.

Pippin