The dynamic Snape (was: Twist JKR? (was:Re: Dumbledore's pleading...)
horridporrid03
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Mon Oct 17 00:04:45 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 141719
> >>Lupinlore:
> > EXACTLY! And there is where so many of the DDM!Snape theories
> > fall down. It IS Harry's story, NOT Snape's.
> > <snip>
> >>Pippin:
> Allow me to ride in on Nora's favorite steed, Excluded Middle. Some
> have said that if Harry does it all on his own, that will just be
> a tired re-iteration of the hero's journey. And above you point
> out that if Harry has nothing to do but what Snape and Dumbledore
> have planned for him, he won't be much of a hero.
> But surely there can be a middle path, where Snape and Harry
> himself go beyond whatever roles Dumbledore envisioned for them.
> <snip>
Betsy Hp:
I'll add that, while it is Harry's story, Snape plays an important
part, I think. Harry believes he has Snape all figured out. He
thinks he knows all there is to know and he's reacting accordingly.
But Harry has been too comfortable, I think, with his views of
Snape. They keep him warm at night, but there are so many missing
pieces (and frankly, mis-information) that I think it's a false
comfort. I think Harry will need to let go of that false comfort,
the luxury of hate, in order to defeat Voldemort (and become a man).
> >>Lupinlore:
> As to why Snape's theories should allow for change ... well, that
> gives JKR an opportunity to show off her writing skills by showing
> a realistic and dynamic character. Character, after all, is the
> very soul of literature.
> <snip>
Betsy Hp:
This, along with your comment earlier that Snape is a one-note
character, boring and predictable, is interesting to me. Snape is
my favorite Potterverse character, and one of JKR's more well-
rounded, fully fleshed creations, I think. The sheer amount of time
and effort spent in discussing the man, his motivations, etc., are
indicitive of *something* I think.
So is Snape a one note job and completely predictable? Not at all.
On the contrary, I'd say Snape is quite dynamic. He doesn't need to
change horse mid-stream to give a false sense of depth. He's deep
enough already. As far as I've been reading him, anyway.
He's a remarkably smart and logical man, but also deeply emotional
(his potion riddle in PS/SS; the Shack in PoA). He's skilled in
both dealing death and saving life (his Dark Arts skills and his
healing skills in HBP). On a more symbolic level he is an expert in
the feminine art of potions and the masculine art of wand play. (I
think we've discussed the fairly overt symbolism of the cauldron and
the wand before.) He's friends with those obsessed with magical
blood, but chooses to live in a muggle neighborhood. And his house
is in what sounds like a dying, dingy, industrial area but is filled
to overflowing with books.
And that's just dealing with what we know for a fact. If we enter
the area of speculation we have a half-blood child of a pure-blooded
mother who, for some reason, chose to join the Death Eaters. An
ugly, strange, anti-social little boy who grew into a confident,
witty man, well respected by his colleagues. And we have a man that
set a world of hurt in motion against someone he hated and was
filled with such remorse he left his friends to join with his
enemies to try and prevent that hurt from happening. A man who left
the winning side to try and help the losers. A man who is at the
very least a double agent, possibly working against a man (a skilled
mind-reader, no less) who is so terrifying people dare not say his
name.
I think that's enough depth for anyone. As to predictability, Snape
has been mis-read from the very first book. He wasn't the villain,
he was the hero, in PS/SS. He didn't chortle with glee when Ginny
was taken in CoS, on the contrary he seemed rather upset. He was
scarily close to being right about Lupin in PoA. In GoF, he again
failed to fulfill the role of villain and insisted on behaving
heroically. In OotP, he was right and again helped save the day.
And then in HBP, to shake it all up, just when the reader started to
get comfortable with Snape being a hero, he turned around and played
the villain.
There's a reason Snape is placed on a pedestal and burned in effigy
by so many fans. Snape is many things and can be described in many
ways. Bland cardboard is not one of them. Or at least, not in my
opinion. <g>
Betsy Hp, who's suddenly really hungery for a fry-up with a bit of
tomato - thank you Pippin <g>
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