deadDD/SlugSibyl/cryptography/Bagman/AgileTonks/SociEthic/MuggleChildWerewolf

Catlady (Rita Prince Winston) catlady at wicca.net
Mon Oct 17 00:10:46 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 141720

Valky wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/141369 :

<< There is also the question of the innate magic that kicks in when a
wizard falls from a height (as per Neville being dropped out the
window) >>

Maybe that works only for wizarding children, as part of the
spontaneous, unintended, unconscious, uncontrolled magic they do when
angry or frightened, and learning to control their magic to use it at
will has the side effect of preventing uncontrolled use. Dumbledore 
in particular wouldn't have any magic left uncontrolled!

Potioncat wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/141449 :

<< Interesting isn't it, Slughorn slipped information to Tom about
horcruxes; Trelawney has made a couple of predictions about LV; Snape
is the one who took the prophesy clip to LV...and all of them are at
the Slug Club Christmas Party. I'd really like to get a list of all
the Slug Club members from JKR. >>

I think of Trelawney as a rather elderly lady, and wonder whether she
would really be young enough to have been one of Slughorn's students.
If she were, and he tapped her for the Slug Club then, she seems to
have been a bet that didn't win -- it seems neither her family
connections nor her magical abilities nor her personal charm have 
made her a powerful or famous or rich person outside Hogwarts.

Eric wonders in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/141475 :

<< whether wizards know about Muggle cryptography. >>

Surely that 'Revelio specialis' spell that Hermione did on 
Harry's used textbook would reveal the clear text faster than 
even computerized decryption?

Carol wondered in 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/141521 :

<< what happened to Bagman and suspects that the goblins are holding
him hostage >>

I think it's in OoP that Bill says the goblins are reluctant to ally
with wizards against LV because they're angry at the Ministry for not
paying off Bagman's gambling debt to them. If they're holding Bagman
hostage in hope that the Ministry will pay the debt in order to ransom
him, I suspect that is a poor tactic -- folks at the Ministry probably
are just happy that Bagman isn't there screwing things up and making
other people's jobs harder.

truthbeauty1 wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/141574 :

<< Some have pointed out that we do not see Tonks being clumsy in this
book. Well,we don't see her being very busy either. In O.O.P, she is a
state of motion. She is "helping" Mrs. Weasley cook, helping Harry
pack. She is constanly being active, so her clumsiness is bound to
show up more. In H.B.P., she is sitting at the Weasleys' table, she is
moping around the castle. She is much more passive, and also normally
in large open spaces where it would be hard to be clumsy, I.M.O. >>

At the beginning of Chapter 8, Snape Victorious, Tonks finds Harry
paralyzed, invisible (under his cloak), and injured under the seats of
what had been Malfoy's clique's compartment. She de-paralyzes him and:

<< "We'd better get out of here, quickly,' she said, as the train
windows became obscured with steam and the train began to move out of
the station. "Come on, we'll jump."

Harry hurried after her into the corridor. Tonks pulled open the 
train door and leapt onto the platform, which seemed to be sliding
underneath them as the train gained momentum. Harry followed her,
staggered a little on landing, then straightened up in tme to see the
gleaming scarlet steam engine pick up speed, round the corner and
disappear from view. >>

Tonks in OoP can't walk down the hall without tripping over the
troll's-leg umbrella stand, but in HBP she can jump off a moving train
and land standing up on her feet.

Nora wrote in http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/141634 :

<< The morality of the Potterverse does seem very social to
me, rewarding sincerity over authenticity.  >>

I gather that 'sincerity' and 'authenticity' are terms of art that I
don't know. Explain?

Kizor wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/141621 :

<< 2) If a Muggle child gets bitten by a werewolf during the second
wizarding war, is there any feasible course of action that doesn't
involve skilled Obliviators and a silver dagger? >>

The FANTASTIC BEASTS ABD WHERE TO FIND THEM entry on Werewolves
(p.41), while not telling even one of the signs by which to recognize
the werewolf from the true wolf, states 'Once a month, at Full Moon,
the otherwise sane and normal wizard or Muggle afflicted transforms
into a murderous beast." Newt Scamander's introduction says "at the
time of writing, there is an office for Werewolf Support Services in
the Being Division whereas the Werewolf Registry and Werewolf Capture
Unit fall under the Beast Division." 

>From that limited scrap of canon, I think the Department for the
Regulation and Control of Magical Creatures tries to handle Muggle
werewolves much the same as wizard werewolves. They would send some
bureaucrat out to the afflicted person and family to explain the the
problem and what the Ministry will do about it (possibly backed up by
'Believe me' charms)(what would that be in Latin?).


I suppose that 'Werewolf Support Services' tell families where they
can buy Wolfsbane Potion if they have the money, rents out chained
steel cages to confine the afflicted family member during the Full
Moon, or for free locks them up in chained steel cages at some
Ministry facility if they bring themselves there at the appointed
time. (I wonder if werewolves kill each other when caged up together?)

The Muggle family would be provided with some cover story about the
afflicted having a rare blood disease requiring a monthly hospital
procedure to drain all the blood, scrub it, and return it to his/her
body. Wizarding families would have to make up their own cover story.

Unless your question was whether the war destroyed this system, with
the bureaucrats assigned to seek out victims having all been killed
off by Death Eaters, and so on?







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