Which characters are dynamic?/Snape's dynamics

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Wed Oct 19 03:59:12 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 141828

Nora:
> Ah, but look at the placement of these things, and how they knot 
into 
> a thread.  James is always brought up in a negative sense, 
sometimes 
> as the bad role model who Harry is just like, and sometimes as 
> Snape's own inferior.  But really, when JKR has Snape screaming 
about 
> James as Harry's 'filthy father' in the middle of such a heated 
> confrontation, what are we *supposed* to think?  
<SNIP>

Alla:

You know, I think it also shows perfectly that Snape has a bone to 
pick not just with James, but with Harry also

"And you'd turn my inventions on me, like your filthy father, would 
you?" - p.604. Snape resents Harry precisely because he thinks Harry 
is doing what James would have done. Come to think of it, besides 
the fact that Snape screams here "I, the Half Blood Prince", ( just 
as you, I find that line to be incredibly pathetic - grown man is 
still proud of his childhood nickname - I think  the parallel with 
Voldemort is the strongest here)), what bothered me tremendously 
was "filthy father". "Filthy mudblood", anybody? but I cannot figure 
out why he would call James filthy, since he is a pureblood? I don't 
think that Snape had any control of his emotions here, so I think  
that is what he tuly thinks of James, but why filthy?




> > Betsy Hp:
> > I guess you thought wrong. <g>  I don't take everything 
Dumbledore 
> > says or does as from on high.

Alla:

YES! Would you agree with questioning " I trust Severus Snape" line 
then?



Betsy:
> > I think Dumbledore talking about the life debt in PS/SS did 
Snape's 
> > and Harry's relationship no favors.  (Actually, I think his 
> > handling of those two was probably his biggest mistake.)  I'm 
sure 
> > he was just trying to help keep Snape's cover, but I think he 
> > should have gone a bit more generic at that moment.  Maybe used 
> > Alla's "any teacher would have done the same" argument. 

Nora:
> But what if it's true, and Dumbledore is simply stating it as it 
is?

Alla:

Oh, Betsy, I don't hold that against Dumbledore at all :) - I am 
equally fond of we don't know how " life debt " works argument, 
which in essense supports what Nora said. Who knows, maybe till 
Snape's life debt is not paid , Snape was having nightmares every 
night with James and Lily's spirits coming to hunt him ( I SO want 
to see ANY of the spirits to do that to Snape, Dumbledore would do 
just fine as I mentioned earlier, but as Jen remarked he is probably 
too forgiving for that), OR maybe Snape is suffering physical pains 
in some parts of his body till debt is not fulfilled or something 
like that.

So, yeah, I think Dumbledore just stated it as it is - Snape did it 
in order to be able to hate Jame's memory in peace ( paraphrase) or 
because any teacher SHOULD have done it as part of job 
description. :-0



JMO,
Alla







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