Which characters are dynamic?

[pippin_999]

No: HPFGUIDX 141842

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "nrenka" <nrenka at y...> wrote:
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> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "horridporrid03" 
> <horridporrid03 at y...> wrote:
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> >> Nora: 
> >> Special emphasis on how much Snape thinks he's right on #2, 
> >> which he tends to think about most people and things:
> > > <snip>
> > 
> > Betsy Hp:
> > How do you figure that?
> 
> That's defined the Harry and Snape dynamic from the beginning, 
> starting from "Harry Potter, our newest celebrity".  What is that if 
> not an assumption, resistant to revision?  It's also the thematic 
> flaw in Snape's character in the Shrieking Shack: when he has Black 
> and Lupin at his mercy, Hermione (the voice of reason and logic) begs 
> him that it wouldn't hurt just to listen, but Snape shoots back at 
> her that she's a 'silly girl' and doesn't understand.  I think that's 
> readable as conviction in his rightness.  A pity it's wrong.  Or one 
> thinks of how quickly he jumps to the argument that Harry *must* have 
> put his own name in the Goblet.  Snape's a terrier in many regards; 
> he holds to some things past sensibility and without examination.
> 

Pippin:
What part of Harry's celebrity is in question? Indeed, one might even consider that Snape 
knows more about Harry's celebrity than Harry himself. Harry has no idea that Draco might 
see him as a potential Dark Lord, and if he did, he might be perfectly happy to see that 
idea squashed, even at the cost of being humiliated in public. He certainly wasn't happy 
about being thought of as Slytherin's Heir in Book Two.

As for the Shrieking Shack, can't you see how delicious this is? Well, maybe not, if you 
can't get your mind around innocent Snape even as a hypothesis. But could you suspend 
your disbelief long enough to see that JKR could put Harry in a position very analogous to 
Snape's in the SS? 

Suppose Snape tried to explain his innocence,  do you think Harry would listen to him for a 
moment? Or would his mind be full of the knowledge that Dumbledore trusted Snape and 
Dumbledore is dead.   That Snape might any moment, even if he appeared wandless and 
helpless, do some magic that would rob Harry of his volition and force him to do whatever 
Snape pleased. Especially since Snape's innocence would open a horrible can of worms 
about whether Harry himself was responsible for DD's demise. Why, Harry might even say 
that Snape deserved to be handed straight to the dementors along with any of his allies. 
Wouldn't it be perfectly natural and not indicative of a one-note character at all?

Pippin