[HPforGrownups] Re: Characters and Consequences? /What does Dumbledore want on the Tower?

Kathryn Jones kjones at telus.net
Wed Oct 19 07:32:03 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 141835

cubfanbudwoman wrote:

> Alla:
>  > Well, the point that Dumbledore would not ask anyone to risk their
>  > soul in order to help out in  his sacrifice also had been argued
>  > over and over and it also does not make any impression whatsoever.
>  > Maybe because those points are at the heart of the opposing
>  > Snape's interpretations and they are bound not to make any
>  > impressions untill JKR says so? :-)
> <snip>
>  > I prefer to see Dumbledore as someone who would not take a risk of
>  > destroying the soul of another human being, even at the time of
>  > war, even if that human being soul was already hurt before.

  KJ writes:
     Some of us see a different Dumbledore than the others. JKR is 
obviously making some points about "Nobody is all good or all bad." When 
she suggests that Dumbledore is the epitome of good, I think we have to 
watch out a little bit.
1. He gives Harry an invisibility cloak
2. He has the Slytherin banners up at the year end feast and then shoots 
the Slyths down in flames. That was mentioned by several posters to be 
cruel. Why not leave the walls blank until the final points were given?
3. He allows Snape to torment Harry.
4. He sends Snape back to Voldemort knowing he could be killed, and 
expecting he will be interrogated rather nastily.
5. His protection of Harry at the Triwizard tournament left something to 
be desired. He knew there was something being planned.
6. There was the ever famous gleam when he heard that Voldemort had used 
Harry's blood.
7. There was his complete avoidance of Harry throughout OotP when all he 
had to do was send Harry a note saying that he would explain later.
8. I like his answer to Harry when he asked if learning about Tom Riddle 
would help him to survive. Dumbledore said that he hoped it would help 
him to survive. Not a real confidence builder in my opinion. 
Particularly since he got teary in OotP over the chance of Harry's 
unhappiness. He seems to handle Harry's potential death much better.
9. Forces Harry to pour poison down his gullet in HBP.
10. Lays a huge guilt trip on Harry for not busting his arse getting him 
Slughorn's memories. In fact, he sounded a bit like Snape for a while there.

  All in all, how can anyone think for a minute that Dumbledore would 
stick at a little thing like asking someone to risk splitting his soul. 
Perhaps that was why Snape was so angry, and why he so greatly resented 
being called a coward.

  At the very least, he is sending Harry out to systematically murder 
all the little parts of Voldemort's soul. Is there a difference between 
the murder of a person, which presumably frees their soul, and murdering 
the soul itself? That is too deep for me. Does it make it all right 
because V is not considered to be human any more?

  Like SSSusan, I think that Dumbledore believes that the protection of 
the WW from Voldemort and his form of evil is paramount to all other 
considerations. He demonstrated his own willingness to give up his life 
to the cause on at least three separate occasions, as well as his 
single-mindedness. He is not just a sweet little old wizard!
KJ











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