Which characters are dynamic?
lupinlore
bob.oliver at cox.net
Thu Oct 20 08:03:02 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 141896
> Pippin:
>
> Supposing that JKR did wish to indicate that the AK was possibly
fake and that conspiracy
> or legilimency between Snape and Dumbledore, unknown to Harry, was
a possibility. What
> more should she have done to suggest this without giving the game
away?
>
Lupinlore:
Well, suggesting it isn't really the point. The point is that such
contrivance, suggested or not, is incredibly cheesy. "Oh, I'll show
this scene but manage to come up with some convoluted and
unbelievable way of completely turning the situation around so that
Harry is completely wrong about Snape (yet again) and Snape
completely in the clear." Which is what I mean, partially, about JKR
being in a corner. She's presented a situation that lots of people
(mainly DDM!Snape supporters, I suppose) find impossible to believe,
view as an emotional and thematic betrayal, and/or find aesthetically
repugnant. However, the only way out of said situation is to create
escape hatches in the plot that lots of other people (mainly OFH!
Snape and ESE!Snape supporters) find impossible to believe, view as
an emotional and thematic betrayal, and/or find aesthetically
repugnant. In one blow she severely limited her options and
practically guaranteed that there will be widespread disappointment
with the last book no matter which way she moves. Maybe she doesn't
care about that ("some won't like it, etc"), and if so that is
certainly her prerogative. But whether she cares or not does not
alter the fact of the matter.
Pippin:
> What I really can't understand about OFH!Snape is that it seems to
presume that Snape is
> somehow less culpable for killing Dumbledore if he did it in
pursuit of his own ends than
> if he did it at Voldemort's orders. And I don't understand that at
all.
Lupinlore:
Oh, I don't think any OFH!Snape theorist is limiting Snape's
culpability. What OFH!Snape does that DDM!Snape does not is allow us
to accept the facts as presented without building a series of escape
hatches into the plot to explain why what we saw in the book's
pivotal scene isn't really what we saw in the book's pivotal scene.
For that matter, unlike either ESE! or DDM! it allows us to accept
most facts as presented without a great deal of twisting and turning
to explain how X or Y that Snape does fits into him being on DD's
side or Voldy's side. By and large one is able to say that when
Snape appears to be doing something to benefit DD he really is doing
that, and when he appears to be doing something that benefits Voldy
he really is doing that, and when he appears to be trapped and
conflicted he really is trapped and conflicted.
So, unlike DDM!Snape, OFH!Snape really does believe that Snape has
done something wrong, that he really HAS done something that serves
Voldy's purposes (although maybe not for Voldy's reasons), and he is
culpable for that. But, unlike ESE!Snape, OFH!Snape believes that
when Snape was appearing to help Dumbledore, he really WAS helping
Dumbledore (although maybe not for Dumbledore's reasons), and this
gives precedent that allows for him to redeem himself in the end,
although certainly at a very high cost.
Lupinlore
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