OFH! Snape and Harry (was: Re: Which characters are dynamic?)
nrenka
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Thu Oct 20 20:20:58 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 141916
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Jessica Bathurst"
<ragingjess at h...> wrote:
<snip>
> Here's where I run into a problem with OFH! Snape - why wouldn't a
> Snape who's concerned with his own safety first and foremost even
> attempt to make nice with the kid who might defeat the Big Bad in
> accordance with the prophecy?
There are any number of possible answers to this question (which is
also interesting to ponder from ESE! and DDM! angles as well). One
which I myself incline to is that one thing OFH!Snape likes about
being where he is is that he has a boss who's really quite lenient
towards his foibles, up to a point. I keep coming back to the JKR
interview comment about Dumbledore and Hagrid, and how Dumbledore
could have gone and told Hagrid to snap out of it--but he wanted
Hagrid to figure it out for himself, because it would be better than
way. Dumbledore isn't going to force anyone to have an epiphany,
just put them into situations where he hopes they'll do it for
themselves. Given that kind of tolerance, OFH!Snape, so long as he
toes some lines, is free to indulge in his displaced antagonism
towards James; Dumbledore isn't going to *make* him get over it, just
hope that he will.
And in at least one reading of OFH!ness, Snape prioritizes what it is
that Snape wants. Particularly as the books go along, it would take
more and more to admit to himself that his judgement hadn't been
particularly sound, and to deal with his lingering grudges and
resentments. Maybe he just doesn't *want* to, because he holds his
hatreds dear? [There's a potential object lesson for both Harry and
the kiddies...]
One also wonders how seriously Snape takes the prophecy. He doesn't
know all of it, I do believe (canonically). He seems pretty
dismissive of Harry's chances in HBP, although of course he could be
lying. It's about 60/40 whether he really puts his faith in Harry as
the man for the job, IMO.
> Both ESE! and DDM!Snape don't have this issue, because in both
> cases Snape's sworn allegiance to someone who is not Harry and is
> following that man's orders. Neither one of them seemed too
> concerned about his treatment of Harry.
Disagree about Dumbledore to some extent: I think he has reigned in
Snape in some areas, but see above for why he wouldn't in others.
> Pippin:
> <snip> OFH!Snape is just a weasel, and I don't care what happens to
> him.
>
> Jessica:
>
> He's not even a successful weasel, when you think about it. The UV
> and all.
But he's (IMHO) potentially a very compelling fall from grace story,
almost classical in his undoing via his own character flaws. This
has some things going for it in the possiblity category. Either ESE
or DDM!Snape is something of a grand figure, heroic in evil or in
good. But I think we often forget how downright ridiculous Rowling
likes to make Snapeykins: spitting and flying into rages hysterical,
or exiting stage left pursued by hippogryff. Many people (elsewhere)
mostly were annoyed at his exit (and speeches) at the end of the
book, calling them OOC for making him seem so unbalanced and silly.
I thought it was the right measure of the man; consistent, at the
least...
-Nora has a drinkie and goes to lecture
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