Like it or not. WAS Re: Which characters are dynamic?

[M.Clifford]

No: HPFGUIDX 141937


 Pippin:
>
> Supposing that JKR did wish to indicate that the AK was possibly
> fake and that conspiracy
> or legilimency between Snape and Dumbledore, unknown to Harry, was
> a possibility. What
> more should she have done to suggest this without giving the game
> away?
>

Lupinlore:
<snip> She's presented a situation that lots of people
(mainly DDM!Snape supporters, I suppose) find impossible to believe,

Valky:
On the contrary Lupinlore, I am a DDM!Snaper and I found it perfectly,
completely, believable that Snape killed Dumbledore. I still do find
it generally believable and would not feel utterly cheated if JKR
squashed all the theories (built on incongruent details and visible
descrepancies) in book seven. It's still able to ring true with minor
adjustments to ones adherance to pedancy about canon examples of AK.

However, JKR has allowed for pedancy and even supported it with
numerous examples through the series. Definitive accounts and
unvarying consistency on some specific matters give the pedants a
basis for questioning it all. 

JKR has always written this way. Granted this will be probably the
first book that leaves us with middle of the book clues at the end of
the book, but JKR gives us a post release interview comment stating
exactly this, so why not assume that we *can* apply mid-book logic to
the end of HBP. As Sydney said, Ginny in COS anyone? or PS/SS
Broomstick curse?, as others have said.

Lupinlore:
[Snape fan] view [Snape killing DD] as an emotional and thematic
betrayal, and/or find aesthetically repugnant. However, the only way
out of said situation is to create
escape hatches in the plot that lots of other people (mainly OFH!
Snape and ESE!Snape supporters) find impossible to believe, view as
an emotional and thematic betrayal, and/or find aesthetically
repugnant. 

Valky:
But none of us is telling the whole story here. There are some saying
why but not how, others saying how but not why, no guarantee that the
twain should meet in the middle in book seven, and *Still* JKR's stamp
left to put on the direction she chooses to go, that stamp, is the
fact of the matter, IMO, because it's that stamp that keeps us, all of
us, baying for more.

We pick bones, and join skeletal structures. No more than a jurassic
archaelogist can recreate living breathing dinosaur can we be able to
say what will be written next, we aren't writing the story or giving
the dinosaur life. We are just joining bones here. If the dinosaur has
an inverted arm joint or an anteverted one, doesn't matter, how do we
know its aesthetically repugnant before we see the animal it hangs off?



Lupinlore:
In one blow she severely limited her options and
practically guaranteed that there will be widespread disappointment
with the last book no matter which way she moves.<snip>
whether she cares or not does not alter the fact of the matter.

Valky:
The fact IMO is that we generally do find something in other peoples
theories that we assume will dissappoint us. But we generally aren't
dissappointed by the books themselves whether they adhere to theories
we disliked or not. I distinctly recall a lot of vehement naysaying
regarding Alla's pre HBP theory that Snape would do something awful
before he is 'redeemed' or otherwise completed his character arc, a
*lot* of saying it will flatten his character like a line of
bulldozers. But those very people are the very same people who are
loving discussing every facet of book six. There is *not* widespread
disappointment. But Alla *was* right, JKR made a story out of it that
was loved and accepted by her fans. IOW, Lupinlore, don't you think
you might be jumping the gun a little here?

Valky