Snape 's story to Bella in Spinner's End WAS:Re: Snape and the blah-blah......

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Carol:

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> It's possible that Snape is telling the truth about passing
> information on Emmeline Vance (though he carefully makes sure that
> Bellatrix is no longer in the Dark Lord's confidence before telling
> her so), and whether or not there are extenuating circumstances, he
> did cast the spell that sent Dumbledore over the battlements of the
> astronomy tower. But Bellatrix's words about his "usual slithering 
out
> of action" suggest that he has done very little of the kinds of dirty
> work she herself is so often involved in. 

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Alla:

I am snipping almost your whole post and I don't even think that I am 
directly responding to this quote, but since you are talking about 
Snape's story in Spinner's End, it seemed  the most appropriate place 
to ask my question, which I should probably hold off till Monday, but 
hopefully Potioncat will forgive me. :-)

I am talking about whether Snape was telling the truth in general in 
his story to Bella. Now as you probably know I think that the 
interpretation that everything that he WAS talking about was  the 
truth has at least an equal support to "Snape's lying to Bella" 
intepretation.

So, I am quite sure that one of the arguments which was raised against 
Snape being truthful with Bella in the past was that some of  the 
pieces of the story told by Snappe contradicts with what we as readers 
already know happened. In particular, some people argued ( I am not 
100% sure, but sure enough) that since Snape tells Bella that 
Dumbledore sustained his injury in Department of Mysteries , instead 
of when he went Horcrux hunting , it means that Snape is defininetly 
lying to Bella. I don't remember Carol, whether you raised this 
argument or not, as I said your post just seemed appropriate place to 
ask this question.

So, after rereading the chapter, it does not seem to me that this is 
what Snape is saying. Here is what he is saying:

I am pleased to say, however, that Dumbledore is growing old. The Duel 
with the Dark Lord last month shook him. He has since sustained a 
serious injury because his reactions are slower than they once were. 
But through all these years, he has never stopped  trusting Severus 
Snape, and therein lies my great value to the Dark Lord. - p.31


Am I missing something here? Is there something in this quote that we 
know for sure to be a lie?

I mean, it is a very reasonable assumption that duel with Voldie shook 
Dumbledore, no? Snape does not say that Dumbledore was injured in DoM, 
which we know did not happened, but we did not know how he felt, in 
fact, I think he WAS shooked pretty badly if for nothing else, but 
because Harry almost died. After all Snape does not specify what kind 
of "shook up" Albus sustained AND then he says that Dumbledore since 
sustained a serious injury, which is also true. Snape does not specify 
WHERE Dumbledore sustained such injury, but it could be because he 
himself has no clue, right? I think Dumbledore could have asked Snape 
to heal him without specifying what caused the injury.


I don't see where Snape lies in this quote, he may omit things, sure, 
but lying? I don't know about that.

Help, please?


JMO,

Alla