That wretchedly annoying UV again -DD/Snape

[Steve]

No: HPFGUIDX 142038

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "saraquel_omphale"
<saraquel_omphale at y...> wrote:
>
> 
> "B.G." wrote:
> >Everyone still ponders - why did DD trust Snape?  ...  Did DD ask 
> >Snape to enter into a UV with him to protect Harry?  
> > 
> 
> Saraquel:
> I know that I've pondered about DD asking Snape to take a UV, but 
> decided that it would be very OOC for DD to do this.  To my mind, a 
> UV is something that you ask someone to make when you do not trust 
> them to either make the right choices or follow through on their 
> word.  
> 
> ...MAHS... (Massively Annoying Huge Snip) [er... the snip is 
> annoying not the snipped content...just so we're clear...]
> 
> Sarauqel

bboyminn:

Excellent analysis of the future of the Order, I'll address that in a
separate post.

On the subject of Dumbledore making Snape take the annoying Unbreakble
Vow, I'm with Saraquel in the analysis posted. But I want to add a
further point AGAINST the idea of a DD/Snape UV.

If we can assume Snape is, or was intended to be, a double (or
double-double) agent then it would be part of his job, standard
opperational procedure, for him to betray each side at some point.
That is the nature of being a spy of this type, at some point you have
to provide some worthwhile information, as some point you have to
prove your loyalty. Snape has proven his loyalty many times (in
smaller ways) to Dumbledore, and now he has had to prove his loyalty
to Voldemort. Either that, or quit the spy game altogether. 

So, that betrayal/disloyalty is not surprising because that's exactly
what Double spies do. It's only in the final battle that the
Double-Spies true loyatlies are proven.

So, I would ask those who support the DD/Snape UV idea, exactly  what
would this Vow involve? If Snape swears loyalty to Dumbledore, then
there is no way he can function effectively as a spy, which is the
very job that Dumbledore will eventually need him to do. So, what
could Snape swear that wouldn't interfer with potential future tasks?

Spies must lie - so he can't swear to always tell the truth.

Spies must betray each side at one point or another - so Snape can't
swear loyalty.

Spies must work for the enemy - so Snape can't swear to never work for
Voldemort or the DE's.

etc...

Really, I don't see what Snape could possibly swear to that would
assure his loyalty to Dumbledore and yet not interfer with his most
important job as a spy. Keep in mind the HUGE difference between
swearing a vow and swearing a UV.

So, in my opinion, no DD/Snape UV.

Steve/bboyminn