Snape, Kreacher and the death of sirius

Sherry Gomes sherriola at earthlink.net
Thu Sep 1 15:20:37 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 139282

> I'd say that Snape framed Kreacher - even as Tom Riddle framed Morfin.
> 
> Finwitch

Hickengruendler:

But we *know* that Kreacher was in it. It was him, and not Snape, who 
told Harry in the fire, that Sirius had left Grimmauld Place. Therefore 
Kreacher was not blamed, he was a part in the conspiration. It also 
must have been Kreacher, who wounded Buckbeak, since Snape was in 
Hogwarts all the time and had no opportunity to do it. And if Kreacher 
had no contact with Narcissa, and it was all just a fake memory planted 
by Snape, than who should have told him to wound the Hippogriff and lie 
to Harry?

 
Sherry now:

Actually, I was just planning to write a post on this very subject.
Recently, I received the hard copy braille version of HBP.  There's a
difference for me when I actually read something in braille with my fingers,
than when I listen to it.  When I first read Spinner's End on audio, I was
so shocked by Snape's claim to have given Voldemort the info that led to the
murder of Vance, that I sort of didn't take in the words about Sirius.
However, when I was reading the same chapter the other day in braille, and
my fingers came across the words:

"The Dark Lord is satisfied with the information i have passed him on the
Order.  It led, as perhaps you have guessed, to the recent capture and
murder of Emmeline Vance, and it certainly helped dispose of Sirius Black
..."

Those words leapt off the page and just about hit me in the face!  What, I
shrieked, bringing my dog running.  Oh! My! Gosh!  

I don't think Snape's claim to have *helped* dispose of Sirius negates
Kreacher's complicity.  Kreacher did indeed wound BuckBeak and lie to Harry.
But how does that remove any guilt from Snape?  We don't know what
information Snape could have given, but he certainly knows enough that would
be damning.  He knows that Sirius is an animagus.  He knows that Sirius is
Harry's godfather and guardian by his parents' choice.  He knows that Sirius
and Harry are very close.  He even knows, after the argument with Sirius in
OOTP, that Harry will leap in to defend Sirius.  Oh, he had enough
ammunition he could have passed on to create a perfect hoax to bring Harry
running to the rescue.  

Narcissa did not object to Snape's claim.  i have read those paragraphs over
and over.  She never says anything like, "No, Sevvy, Kreacher gave us all
the info."  She accepts his statement, and so does Bella.  Though I was
already confident that Snape had murdered Dumbledore, this passage still
gave me chills and caused me to wonder what the heck Harry will do when or
if he learns it.  He now blames Snape for the loss of his parents and
Dumbledore, but what if he learns Snape also contributed to the death of
Sirius?  Not in Harry's grief induced blame right after the death, but that
Snape actually gave Voldemort information that led to Sirius and Harry being
set up.  How could Harry ever forgive Snape?  I don't think any reasonable
thinking person could forgive those three things.  

I am certainly more convinced than ever that Snape did indeed murder
Dumbledore and is not now, if he ever was, Dumbledore's man.  

Sherry





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