Snape, Kreacher and the death of sirius

[hickengruendler]

No: HPFGUIDX 139287

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Sherry Gomes" <sherriola at e...> 
wrote:
 
> 
> I don't think Snape's claim to have *helped* dispose of Sirius 
negates
> Kreacher's complicity.  Kreacher did indeed wound BuckBeak and lie 
to Harry.
> But how does that remove any guilt from Snape?  

Hickengruendler:

It depends on what exactly he has said and done.

First of all, as an adequate spy, he has IMO to give some worthy 
information to both sides, no matter on which one he is. Otherwise, 
the other side would stop to trust him pretty soon. I think we also 
have to see the Emmeline Vance information in this light. He did not 
say, that he delivered Emmeline's head to Voldemort on a silver 
plate, he just said that he gave informations that led to her death. 
Maybe he decided to feed Voldemort with some minor stuff about the 
Order's work, and Voldemort acted on this, and somehow poor Emmeline 
got in the way and was killed. I don't say that it has to be that 
way, but I do think it's possible. If Snape didn't give Voldemort any 
worthy information at all, he would be dead by now. It could have 
been similar with his informations about Sirius. Maybe he was just 
asked to confirm Kreacher's informations. I do not doubt that it was 
Kreacher who got in contact with Narcissa, because someone must have 
told him to injure Buckbeak at the right time, so that Sirius wasn't 
already finished mending the hippogriff and able to answer Harry's 
call from the fire. That does not mean, that Snape couldn't have 
given some informations as well, or that Snape isn't evil, but 
Kreacher not contacting Narcissa, as Finwitch suggested, leads IMO to 
some pretty big plot holes.

We don't know what
> information Snape could have given, but he certainly knows enough 
that would
> be damning.  He knows that Sirius is an animagus.  He knows that 
Sirius is
> Harry's godfather and guardian by his parents' choice.

Hickengruendler:

But Wormtail knew all this as well and probably already told 
Voldemort. Therefore that wouldn't be any new informations for him. 
And I must admit, that I never saw why Voldemort having the 
informations about Sirius really changed all that much. IMO, if Harry 
had seen Lupin, Moody or Tonks, even the Dursleys being tortured, he 
would have done the same.
 
Hickengruendler