Apologies and responsibility

[pippin_999]

No: HPFGUIDX 139316

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "lupinlore" <bob.oliver at c...>
wrote:

> True, Harry does take out his anger on the relatively innocent, 
> sometimes (and I'm not at all sure Ron and/or Hermione are
blameless  in the situations where Harry yells at them), but let he 
(or she) who  is without sin cast the first stone.  Unfortunately, we 
ALL take our  anger out on inappropriate targets, sometimes. 
<snip>  And, as I say, I'm not sure that Ron
and/or  Hermione don't have some of it coming, much of the time.
<snip>
For that matter, the  entire wizarding world is socially retarded in 
many ways --physical assault wasn't always taken very seriously
in the muggle world of the nineteenth century, which is the world 
on which so much of the  Potterverse for good, or I will acknowledge 
often for ill, is based.  

Pippin:
Everybody does it? Socially retarded wizarding world? They had it
coming???

Y'know, it's amazing how much like a Snape apologist a Harry apologist
can sound.  Jo strikes again! <veg>

Lupinlore:
> As for the cheating accusation, I don't agree at all.  Harry was 
> doing what he had been instructed to do -- i.e. prepare a potion. 
He  used somewhat different directions than the rest of the class,
it's 
true, however the potions he prepared were exemplery.  He never 
claims to have invented the directions himself, he did not gain
these directions in a dishonest manner, is not forbidden to use 
them, and  offers to share them with his classmates.  

Pippin:
Only Ron and Hermione, IIRC.  What about the others? 
And what about Hermione's objection that the HBP's 
spells and techniques weren't likely to be Ministry approved? It's
fine to experiment, but I hope that lab of yours isn't in the habit of
using human guinea pigs without their consent. I hope it
doesn't allow  teenagers to download  anonymous formulae from 
the internet, pass them off as their own work, and prepare them 
for the first time in a  in a classroom, potentially exposing other 
students to harmful or explosive mixtures. And I certainly hope
it doesn't lie  about the source of its information, as Harry  
did when he was finally asked.

Harry had no understanding of the theory behind the HBP's 
innovations, but he was taking credit for
them as if he did.   As others have said, he'd have been 
caught and embarrassed sooner or later.

Harry knew there was a good chance Slughorn wouldn't approve
of crib notes -- why else would he think he needed to hide them?

Pippin