Dumbledore and Harry WAS: Re: Apologies and responsibility
lady.indigo at gmail.com
lady.indigo at gmail.com
Sat Sep 3 05:09:10 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 139431
Alla wrote:
>>I think that there is a good chance that Dumbledore did exactly
that - namely he was hoping that Snape and Harry will get along
while they will learn more about each other. But I don't see it as
sign of idiocy, more like Dumbledore's idealistic faith in Snape,
IMO.<<
Lady Indigo:
As a side note, sure, or maybe even a purpose of equal importance, but why
create such a loaded situation that has the same power struggle of student
and teacher Harry and Snape face any other day if that were the only point?
If that was the secret intent behind the exercise, no matter how idealistic
Dumbledore is I think he'd have the sense to know this wouldn't have just
taken time and their own maturity, or the situation between Harry and Snape
would have been better by now, not worse.
Alla:
>>I think that Dumbledore put Occlumency aside permanently.
I think that after OOP he realized that it is not going to be the most
important tool to help Harry ( it is your heart that saved you).<<
Lady Indigo:
And that's partly what I meant. I've seen that argument posed before and I
agree with it. :)a:
Alla:
>>Wasn't Dumbledore already dismissed as Headmaster at the time they
went to Chamber? They could not approach him even if they wanted to,
but in a sense Harry did ask for help from Dumbledore and received
it , didn't he?<<
Technically if you're going by my hypothetical they could have owled him for
advice or something, but either way, H&R should have gone to see someone
like him who generally has a brain in their head and is on the side of the
boys. They could have talked to McGonagall or any of the other teachers who
couldn't stand Lockhart and seen if they could find some way to be believed
about their claims against the guy.
I think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying here, though. I'm not
talking about Harry and Ron's actions against the basilisk or saying they
DID act wrongly. Unless they just let Lockhart go they acted the only way
they could have. I'm just saying that it *was* ok to take a (mostly)
defenseless and unprepared Lockhart down into the Chamber with them
considering how Ginny *was* in danger and they needed to save her. But if
hypothetically they could have taken all the time in the world before
helping Ginny, then they of course should have found some other way to
expose him.
Then again, when the original poster said 'deserved to be kidnapped' she may
have just meant 'detained from fleeing the school', in which case I'm making
an ass of myself. :)
- Lady Indigo
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