Missing Horcruxes & Harry's Protection from Lily

mugg1eb0rn at aol.com mugg1eb0rn at aol.com
Sat Sep 3 07:55:47 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 139429

Jiloppy:

>Does anyone else think that the missing Horcrux could have been taken 
>and destroyed by Sirius brother?  The initials are the same.  Remember 
>Sirius tells Harry that Voldemore killed his brother himself.  


I think you're right about Sirius' brother taking the locket, but I don't 
think the locket was destroyed. Remember the locket at 12 Grimmauld Place when 
the OOP was cleaning up the place? The one no one could open? My friend Juli17 
(who suggested I might be interested in this group) mentioned to me once that 
the locket there could be the real horcrux. Regulus would certainly have had 
the opportunity to hide it there. Kreacher probably has it hidden in his nest. 
In fact, the goblets that Mundungus stole out of the house should be 
investigated, too. It's likely none of them are the missing goblet, but it's certainly 
possible that Regulus could have disguised it in some way with the Black crest, 
and hidden it in the house that way, since he was unab (or afraid) to destroy 
it. 

In fact, what if the only way a horcrux could safely be destroyed is through 
the actions of the wizard who created it? Or maybe someone who had the essence 
of that wizard on his person in the form of another horcrux? Since no other 
wizard seems to have been amoral enough or powerful enough to create more than 
one in the past, no one would know if this were the case, unless Harry shows 
us the way.

Personally, I believe Harry does not have the horcrux "in" him. I think it's 
"on" him--I think it's his scar that is the horcrux. It is "no ordinary scar" 
as we have known from the beginning. It is LV's mark that sets him apart, and, 
according to DD, was created "accidentally" by LV, causing the transfer of 
some of his powers to Harry. The accident, I believe, was caused because of the 
way Lily's protective charm, whatever it was, acted (forgive me if this seems 
to be restating the obvious, but I'm still trying to figure this out even as I 
type). 

The "crux" of the matter (forgive me again!) is that if any time one wizard 
murdered another a horcrux was created, the process would be much better known. 
Tom Riddle wouldn't have had to cozy up to Slughorn to get instructions in 
it. It obviously IS known, because DD didn't want them to be taught at Hogwarts, 
but it can't be very common. This must mean that the wizard must use spells, 
probably complicated ones, as well as murder someone with the AK in order to 
create one. 

Whatever Lily did caused it to backfire (the "Love Charm" theory sounds like 
a good one to me, since LV discounts the power so clearly), but a horcrux DID 
form none the less. Maybe even the fact that LV killed both of Harry's parents 
just before trying to kill Harry can account for this. He was the Boy Who 
Lived because he was created by the love of his parents, and therefore the Love 
Charm protected him and all but destroyed the wizard trying to take advantage 
of their deaths? This might also explain why Harry's blood was needed for LV to 
take independent physical form again.

I am pretty sure the horcrux is in Harry's scar for several reasons. One is 
that JKR has said the last word she plans for book 7 is "scar," and that it is 
probably a clue. Another is just the way the scar has acted from the very 
beginning, as the starting point for excruciating pain, which, as time has gone 
on, has also been the seat of his greatest sensations of unreasoning anger, 
especially towards DD and, interestingly enough, Snape. If this is the link to 
Voldemort, as it has always seemed to be, it's logical that that is where the 
piece of him lies within him. We were told on many occasions that when Harry even 
saw DD at certain times, the anger seemed to overwhelm him as if it were 
coming from outside of himself. Perhaps when LV had doubts about whether his spy 
Snape was actually working for him rather than DD the anger also was 
transmitted to Harry through the scar. When Harry was getting Occlumency lessons from 
Snape, the scar hurt him horribly. Seems to fit that this could be the horcrux, 
and if it is, it would undoubtedly be the last that would have to be dealt 
with before LV could be vanquished.

And if the locket that can't be opened is that horcrux, Harry's scar (or 
wherever the horcrux is in Harry, if it should not be the scar) could be very hard 
to deal with.

I do hope that JKR will allow Harry to be the Boy Who Lived once again. The 
alternative--that Lord Voldemort is the One Who Survives--is very depressing. 
Given the situation in the world at times it certainly seems possible, but I 
keep telling myself that as dark as the story can get at times, it was 
originally conceived as a story for kids, so I'm trying to maintain my optimism that 
Harry will survive and get a chance to prosper.

Janet
(who also asks forgiveness if this subject of the scar-as-horcrux has already 
been discussed to death in the past--she can barely keep up with the current 
posts, let alone explore the archives extensively)


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