numerous short replies, not all of them smart-ass

Catlady (Rita Prince Winston) catlady at wicca.net
Mon Sep 5 11:50:53 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 139577

Pippin wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/138999 :

<<  Jo has already said that Harry can't learn [Occlumency] -- he's
too damaged. >> 

I thought Jo said that Harry can't learn Occlumency because he isn't
damaged enough. (I'm not going into detail because so many posters
have already done so.)

zgirnius wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/139012 :

<< Bella, eat your heart out! The woman is Gryffindoresque in her
loyalty to Voldemort... >>

Hufflepuffesque?

Amiable Dorsai wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/139022 :

<< Hermione seems to have some knowledge of latin, in PoA, she
apparently coined "Mobliarbus" to move a christmas tree. >>

I recall that some listie suggested years ago that Hermione had
learned this spell from a History book because it had become famous 
as the spell that moved Burnham Wood to Dunsinane.

Lady Indigo wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/139123 :

<< tbernhard2000: Snape found refuge at Hogwarts too.
Lady Indigo: When? >>

As a grown man who turned against the Dark Lord.

Pippin wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/139130 :

<< Isn't it telling that Voldemort used Harry's feelings for Sirius,
not [Cho Chang]? >>

IIRC Harry no longer had any special feelings for Cho by the time LV
was setting up the trap. So LV wouldn't have used Cho as bait even if
he had been getting his info straight from Harry's mind. 

Vivian wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/139183 :

<< We know that Snape has used Legimency on people before--
Fake!Moody on the stairs, >>

This confuses me. How could Snape have used Legilimency on Fake!Moody
without noticing that he was fake? Surely one's self-identity is
present in one's mind all one's waking time, like a background noise?

Pippin wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/139222 :

<< But an apology that wasn't asked for I think would have shocked
Snape and might have made him question his assessment that Harry is
arrogant. >>

I expect that Snape would have assumed that any apology volunteered by
Harry was some kind of deliberate insult to Snape.

Ms*Bead*sley wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/139237 :

<< So how DID he get the name Snivellus; >>

IIRC Valky theorized that it was because he tattled to the grown-ups,
somehow connected to avoiding punishment for his own misdeeds. 

Valky wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/139252 :

<< Day 1 Voldemort attacks GH
Day 2 Sirius is put in Azkaban and Harry is put in Privet Drive
Day 3 or 4 The Longbottoms are attacked and tortured by the
Lestranges. >>

GoF, chapter 27, "Padfoot Returns": 'Sirius smiled grimly.
"Crouch's own son was caught with a group of Death Eaters
who'd managed to talk their way out of Azkaban. Apparently
they were trying to find Voldemort and return him to power."'

I don't think Day 3 or 4 is long enough for the Lestranges to have
been arrested and talked their way out of Azkaban.

Jamie wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/139285 :

<< Plus, remember what JKR said about the POA movie foreshadowing
things from the final two books? Perhaps she shuddered slightly at the
scene where Sirius tells Harry that his parents live on inside him. >>

In the book PoA, it is Dumbledore's line: "You think the dead we loved
ever truly leave us? You think that we don't recall them more clearly
than ever in times of great trouble? Your father is alive in you,
Harry, and shows himself most plainly when you have need of him. How
else could you produce that particular Patronus? Prongs rode again
last night."

Lady Indigo wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/139309 :

<< I can't fathom how someone, even at the age of 16, even in a world
with advanced healing, could ever see something labelled 'for enemies'
and have their first urge be to use it and see what it does. >>

It kept seeming to me as if that book seduced Harry, kind of like The
Diary. It didn't have verbal conversations with him and I don't think
it thought for itself, but it maybe had some charm on it to
magnetically attract Harry, make him trust it and want to try out all
its special spells. Maybe Hermione's intense dislike of it and Ron's
inability to read it were also caused by magic -- if Hermione and Ron
had both had the same reaction, it would be easy to believe that the
spell simply included repelling everyone but the 'owner'.
Unfortunately, I don't know how well a mere spell could tailor the
type of repulsion to the repulsee's personality without 'thinking for
itself'. But, y'know, a spell on the book telling it to belong to
Harry could cause it to move itself from Snape's bookcase to the
Potions classroom cabinet.

Luckdragon wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/139426 :

<< I wonder how many people would truly find Snape as attractive had
Alan Rickman not portrayed him in the movies. >>

*sigh* I feel like I am constantly repeating that there were women (on
the predecessor of this list, and elsewhere) who doted on Severus
Snape *before the movie rights had even been sold*. His speech about
the subtle beauty of the softly simmering cauldron had more to do with
it than Alan Rickman's innate sexiness.

Vivian wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/139475 :

<< So far JKR has only shown DEs (and former DEs) kill. She hasn't
shown any Order members killing yet—not even in self-defense. >>

That depends on how precise is the word 'shown'. In the Pensieve scene
of Karkaroff's hearing in GoF: "Any others?" said Crouch coldly.

"Why, yes 
 there was Rosier," said Karkaroff hurriedly. "Evan
Rosier."

"Rosier is dead," said Crouch. "He was caught shortly after you were,
too. He preferred to fight rather than coming quietly, and was killed
in the struggle."

"Took a bit of me with him, though," whispered Moody to Harry's
right. Harry looked around at him once more, and saw him indicating
the large chunk out of his nose to Dumbledore.






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