Replies - Academic Dishonesty ; Filius can't Duel ; Grindelwald and Horcruxes

M.Clifford Aisbelmon at hotmail.com
Tue Sep 6 23:24:18 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 139689


Replies to Lady Idingo, Ginger, and Geoff on various topics.


--- Lady Indigo asks:
> If [Harry] wasn't doing anything wrong [in using the HBP
> book], why the coverup? The lying? The taking the punishment
> without arguing with Snape or appealing to Dumbledore? I've
> seen these questions get asked a few times now and nobody's
> even bothered to answer them.

Valky:
I gave an answer earlier to one of those questions Lady Indigo. IMO
Harry kept and hid the HBP's book because he saw it as a unique
resource. I explained it in more detail in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/139563
Scroll down to the last part of the mesage if you want to skip
straight to the answer.

Matt:
Accepting the punishment? I think Harry felt he deserved it. He
would never have consciously chosen to do what he did to Draco, and
was appalled at himself.

Valky:
I agree absolutely with Matt.


Ginger wrote:
> Flitwick:
> There's been a lot of discussion about FF's deuling ability.  Was he 
> a champ?  The quote comes to mind:  "Judge me by my size, do you?  
> And well you should not."  

Valky:
This is a good quote, but as the sole determined flagger of Flitty
Flitwick who can't duel, to date, I have to defend my position and say
that none of the consideration is based on his size. I feel the
argument that Flitwick is not a dueller is backed solidly by his
actions, and the actions of the people who know him.

The canons lined up side by side on the Flitty Flitwick's maiden
voyage are:

1. Filius has been known to squeal, titter and burst into tears on
occasion when Dark Forces are about.

2. Filius was rumoured to be a Duelling Champ at a suspiciously
convenient time for someone who wasn't a duelling champ to be rumoured
to be one... :S 

3. Filius was chosen over children by MacGonagall (Children who
incidently have proven themselves in battle before) to be a Messenger
rather than a fighter when fighters were clearly needed. 

4. Filius PS/SS stone protection was far less ominous and frightening
than the others. In fact it was positively sporting and innocuous
even. Foreshadowing a light touch. 

It's not well armed really, but at the moment I can't find anything
solid enough to break the hull.  

> Valky:
> > Leaving us with only one thing left to find - What made 
> > Grindelwald immortal. We only have canon on one method of pursuing 
> > immortality so let's call it that, Horcruxes. 
>  
> Geoff:
> Where are we told that Grindelwald was immortal? And, if so, where 
> is the dear chap now?
> 
> IIRC we are told only that Dumbledore defeated him in 1945.

Valky:
In the paragraph before this I worked on a canon basis for it. 
We aren't told it, but we are told that Voldemort only fears death and
Dumbledore, and that Voldemort is immortal because of Horcruxes. 

I used some set theory to get to the point where I could say if these
are the parameters then it looks (I think) closed under dot operator
and "Grindelwald was immortal" is in the set. I can certainly
appreciate that not everyone will see it as a sound assumption, and
certainly noone has to agree that we can apply abstract mathematical
analysis to Harry Potter (I am just in the habit of doing it to
everything, learning as I go along) but I am not claiming that its
canon. Does that Help? :)

In terms of where is the dear old chap now, the theory is that
Grindelwald is definitely gone and DD did it hence why Voldemort is
scared of Dumbledore.



Valky








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