Eavesdropper in Hog's Head/someone in the Weasley-shed?

finwitch finwitch at yahoo.com
Wed Sep 7 12:46:21 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 139729



> houyhnhnm:
> 
> What bugs me about this piece of information is not the identity of
> the barman.  Although maybe it would if I thought about it long
> enough--the ramifications that is; I know it's Aberforth.
> 
> What I want to know is this:  If Snape was thrown out *only a short
> way* into the prophecy how does Trelawney know he was there that
> night?  Did she come out of her trance just long enough to register
> the commotion at the door, and then go back into it?

Finwitch:

Of course the barman was Aberforth, and it wasn't Three Broomsticks 
but Hogs' Head, where Trelawney was rooming for low price.

As for Trelawney in&out trance while giving the Prophecy, well I 
suppose it happened every time there was three dots in the prophecy 
line.

'The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord Approaches' Snape's 
probably listening at the door to this, which Trelawney notices. 
Someone is Approaching at this point, Aberforth that is (the 
bartender)... born to those who have thrice defied him... (Aberforth 
begins to drag Snape away)... born as the Seventh Month dies... 
(Aberforth's dragging Snape and throws him out so Snape hears no 
more.)

Because in a way, Aberforth - who as the one throwing Snape out, thus 
preventing him and Voldemort from hearing all the prophecy, did, in 
*that* way, have the power to vanquish Voldemort (As Snape no doubt 
Apparated to Voldemort, telling him of this--). Those 3 lines - 1st 
one mentions Aberforth, other two give information that Voldemort was 
to have for the prophecy to fulfill - and THEN she tells the choices 
(and consequences) of what Voldemort will do about it... probably as 
Voldemort was making them. "And either must die at the hand of the 
other, for neither can live while the other survives..." That line 
might not have been about Harry&Voldemort at all. Well, who says that 
line was about 'the chosen one' and Dark Lord at all? What if it was 
about Snape&Dumbledore, referring to Snape's Unbreakable Vow?

I'm just saying that each line may refer to different matter. Those 
dots have a meaning, too. Although, I'd say that 'the one with the 
power to vanquish the Dark Lord will be born as the seventh month 
dies' IS referring to Harry. In addition, I find it curious that 
Dumbledore tells Harry that 'only ones who know full contents of the 
Prophecy are in this shed', not that it's just the two of them.

You know, 'only ones who know are in this shed' does sound to me as 
careful choosing of words that are true, but not necessarily meaning 
what you think they mean - Dumbledore does take Harry to that shed to 
have the discussion. He could of told Harry all the things on the 
*yard* or at the Dursleys or before/after meeting Slughorn - without 
bothering with the shed, you know. So who else were there, unseen by 
Harry? Aberforth? Fawkes? (Hmm.. if Albus trusted Severus Snape so 
very very much, how much he trusted his brother?)

Finwitch






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