The AK itself, / Keep Harry Horcrux Free Challenge

[Steve]

No: HPFGUIDX 140299

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "saraquel_omphale"
<saraquel_omphale at y...> wrote:
> > ibchawz:
> > 
> > Since hand bandages seem to be in short supply, I'll just grab the 
> > nearest lamp and prepare to repeated bash my head.  This one is 
> > relatively easy to work out.  The logical flow of events is as 
> > follows:
> > 
> > 1.  LV murders James Potter.
> > 2.  LV murders Lily Potter (Or rather Lily sacrifices herself as 
> > opposed to chosing to step aside).
> > 3.  LV attempts to murder Harry Potter, but the spell rebounds due
> > to Lily's sacrifice.  
> > 
> > Harry would not have the scar at this point in time because LV has 
> > not attempted to murder him yet.  The scar is a by-product of the 
> > rebounded AK.

> Saraquel:
> Preparing to bang head against desk thoroughly as well as iron hands 
> as this is my fourth post today!  Never mind it's gone midnight 
> here, so I'm off to bed in a mo.  In GoF Priori Incantatem, there is 
> no extra spell to account for the rebounded AK curse, implying that 
> Lily was AKed and died and Harry got his scar at one and the same 
> time.  Now do you see my problem?

bboyminn:

I think the real problem is that we don't know and can't predict what
a Rebounded-AK would look like. I suspect there are experts in the
field who could indentify most abstract spells that could be
redrawn/recalled from a wand, but Harry is certainly not one of them. 

For example, what does a Jelly-Leggs Curse look like when recalled
from a wand? Next to impossible to predict.

We do know that from a straight forward AK, we see the 'body' of the
dead person. Yet, a rebounded, repelled, blocked AK has never happened
in the recorded history of wizard-kind. Even if you were an expert you
would have trouble predicting that one. 

Harry didn't die, so his body wouldn't appear. Voldemort's body was
destroyed by the rebound, but /HE/ didn't actually die either. So what
would appear? Some green vapor? A twinkle of green light? Nothing at
all? We don't know, probably NO ONE knows, so Harry could possibly be
expect to indentify that particular spell when whatever abstaction it
produced appeared.

Again, think of other spells that don't have solid indentifiable
images when recalled from a wand. What does a stunning spell look
like? We don't know and can't predict. Like I said, and expert in this
area may be able to identify the more abstract spells, but it would
generally be impossible for Harry and therefore the narrator to
identify them. It's possible the Rebounded-AK did appear in some
abstract form, and Harry simply didn't recognise it. 

So, overal, I don't think it's a problem.

Just a thought.

STeve/bboyminn