Voldie's Wand and other details

[msbeadsley]

No: HPFGUIDX 140368

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "lolita_ns" <lolita_ns at y...> wrote:
> <snip> Fair enough. But when Kreacher showed up at Narcissa's 
> door, how come that she didn't figure out that the HQ of the Order 
> must be at 12 GP? It doesn't matter that the house is unplottable,  
> or that it's fidelioused. Narcissa grew up there. She must have 
> known where Kreacher had come from. She also must have known that 
> her once- home passed to Sirius's hands - she knows that he's still
> alive.

Where is the canon that Narcissa lived at 12 GP or that it was "her
once-home"? Unless I am being oblivious (always a possibility, I
admit), the familiarity Narcissa would have with 12 GP would merely be
that of a relative's house. Sirius and Regulus were brothers;
Andromeda, Bellatrix and Narcissa were their *cousins*.

> She could have easily put 2 and 2 together. So what if the 
> DEs couldn't see the HQ? They could have planted a wizarding 
> equivalent of a bomb to the place they knew the house was, 
> regardless of the fact that they weren't able to see it. Unless 
> Narcissa too had lost her marbles, like the rest of her family, 
> which doesn't ring quite true, seeing how she put the broken mother
> act and tricked Snape - the untrusting soul extraordinaire - into 
> making the Vow.)

It isn't at all clear, IMO, that they "could have planted a wizarding 
equivalent of a bomb to the place they knew the house was, regardless
of the fact that they weren't able to see it." Not only could Harry
not *see* 12 GP before reading DD's note, the space the structure
inhabited a moment later did not apparently exist either, until,
according to p. 59 of the US ed. of OoP, "It was as though an extra
house had inflated, pushing those on either side out of its way."

<snip>
> However, the Fidelius in PoA is different. We hear, from Flitwick - 
> who, you will agree, knows his charms - that the Fidelius secret is 
> kept within a *living soul*. This would imply that while the Secret 
> Keeper is alive, the charm works. This means that NO ONE but LV and 
> Pettigrew, including DD, would have been able to find the house in 
> Godric's Hollow, for as long as Pettigrew was alive. Even after the 
> Potters and LV were dead, i.e, in LV's case, as dead as possible. 
> But, as we saw, no one had ANY problems whatsoever in finding the 
> place (DD knew where to send Hagrid, Hagrid found the place easily, 
> and the same goes for Sirius). Just what are we supposed to swallow 
> here?
<snip>

I am racking my brain for something that supports "as we saw, no one
had ANY problems whatsoever finding the place." I don't think we see
anything that happens before, during, or after at GH in canon. We can
only infer, from what we're told, and it's awfully little, IMO.

Sandy aka msbeadsley