Sadistic Snape

[vmonte]

No: HPFGUIDX 140409

>vmonte wrote:
"I also want to add that Snape was never punished for his crimes
(while innocent people like Sirius and Stan Shunpike have), and that
Dumbledore treats Snape with respect, and expects others to treat him
with respect as well. "

>Del replies:
DD's choices, not Snape's. If Snape doesn't want to feel bound by 
DD's choices, that's his right.

>vmonte wrote:
"In light of this, how appropriate is it for Snape to assume anything
about Harry, and before he even meets him?"

>Del replies:
Appropriate by whose standards? By Snape's standards, it's apparently
a most appropriate thing to do.

>vmonte wrote:
"If Dumbledore is willing to give Harry a chance, who is Snape not to
do the same; considering that he was forgiven for the real sin of
being a DE, compared to Harry who has not committed any crime. "

>Del replies:
Snape is his own man. If he doesn't want to be bound by DD's choices
and morality, that's his right.

>vmonte wrote:
"And why is it OK to be so disrespectful to Harry for the actions of
his father?"

>Del replies:
It's not OK by your and my standards. But for someone with a vendetta
kind of mindset, like Snape, it's not only OK but to be expected.

>vmonte wrote:
"(The fact that Snape is emotionally arrested is not Harry's 
problem.)"

>Del replies:
More precisely, it's not something Harry is responsible for, and it's
something Harry can do very little about. But it is very much Harry's
problem, just like it is our problem if our neighbour hates us.
Pretending the problem doesn't exist isn't going to help.

>vmonte wrote:
"If Snape had any "real" epiphany about the mistakes he made in his
past he would never do what he is doing in the present. "

>Del replies:
First, it would depend on what kind of epiphany he had. And second,
simply having an epiphany doesn't automatically mean that someone is
going to change their life. Many people have "epiphanies" where they
realise that something they have done was horrible, but they don't do
anything about it, and after a while the epiphany fades away and they
go back to their old ways.


vmonte again:
You just comfirmed what I've been saying about Snape. He behaves 
inappropriately because he does not feel bound to do the right thing, 
he has not learned the appropriate standards of conduct from 
Dumbledore, he has a vendetta against a dead man, he's emotionally 
arrested, and it is not certain whether he ever had an ephiphany. 

In short, he has behaved like a deeply horrible and sadistic person.
But it's all an act right? But he is still good right? But he cannot 
help his actions because he is a vampire, he is cursed by the DADA 
curse, Harry is the real bad guy, those brats deserve to be put in 
their place, the unbreakable vow wasn't really unbreakable/and or it 
was, he had no choice but to kill Dumbledore, Dumbledore was too weak 
to be much use anyway, Dumbledore wanted to die, murdering Dumbledore 
in front of Harry was something Dumbledore thought would be a good 
thing for him--something to make Harry nostalgic/reminisce over the 
good old days when Sirius and his own parents were killed, Snape 
didn't think that telling Voldemort about the prophecy was going to 
get Harry and his family killed--he just thought some other shmuck's 
family was going to get it, and making the right choices are not 
important to JKR--because she is a liar, someone who doesn't know how 
to phrase things correctly, and is completely misinformed about what 
real sadism is. 

Vivian