Dumbledore's Death

[zgirnius]

No: HPFGUIDX 140555

knorte wrote:
> I've just joined this group and still have many e-mails to go 
before 
> catching up on all the theories and discussions spawned by HBP but 
> I'm wondering why everyone seems so completely convinced that DD is 
> really "dead."  

zgirnius:
Hi!

My biggest problem with this is that Snape is still alive. We know 
from Ron's conversation with Harry that failing to keep and 
Unbreakable Vow is lethal. If Dumbledore is alive, Snape has not 
killed him. Draco has tried and "seemed unable".

knorte:
> First of all, Snape would have had to truly want to 
> kill DD for the AK to work.  I'm not convinced that he did.  I'm 
> sure DD knows a great deal more about Snape than JKR has told us 
> through her books and I have a hard time believing he could be so 
> blind as to keep as a trusted ally, someone who would be able to 
> perform a successful AK on him. 

zgirnius:
You are not alone...speculations include, that Snape's AK failed but 
the force of the spell threw Dumbledore off the tower to his death, 
or the idea that under cover of saying the words "Avada Kedavra", 
Snape performed a different spell which just caused DD to fall off 
the tower.

knorte wrote:
> I think 
> there's a very good chance that we'll see DD, or an altered version 
> of him at least, in Book 7.  

zgirnius:
I think we'll have to settle for Pensieve memories and the portrait, 
myself. Though I suppose some sort of return form the dead would be a 
way around Snape still being alive. But I seem to recall JKR saying 
that death is final in the Potterverse. (Gandalf wasn't really a 
remarkable human or elf person who happened to be a wizard, he was a 
Maia, sort of a lesser deity or powerful spirit being, and having 
different rules for him made more sense in the context of that 
universe.)

knorte:
> By the way, I agree with anyone who 
> found this to be the least exciting of JKR's series thus far.  I 
was 
> quite disappointed but I want to know how the story turns out so, 
of 
> course, will be there with the crowds to purchase the last volume.

zgirnius:
Too bad, I hope that Book 7 works out for you! Book 6 was my favorite 
and has me really waiting for Book 7...