Motivations for Joining DEs (Was: Bullying)
Jen Reese
stevejjen at earthlink.net
Fri Sep 30 02:52:59 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 140942
Nora:
> So we, of course, don't know what Young!Snape knew about the DEs.
> It seems safe to say that the blood thing was their public face,
> so we can assume that Young!Snape knew all about that and at
> minimum had no problems with it. And I think it's also supported
> that Young!Snape had 'issues' with the blood thing. He's one of
> the very few characters we've heard 'Mudblood' from (the others
> being Voldemort and Draco, and I think Bella?).
Jen: Snape calling Lily a Mudblood does evoke the memory of Draco
calling Hermione the same. Whether JKR is really going for a "Snape
was similar to a boy Draco when he was in school" angle is hard to
say. Dumbledore seemed to feel Draco and Harry's instant dislike of
each other mirrored Severus and James.
If JKR intends this, I see some canon evidence Snape may have been
recruited very much like Draco. To set the stage, we hear from Lupin
in the "Very Frosty Christmas" chapter how Fenrir recruits new
werewolves by preying on children of parents he's angry with as
punishment. Voldemort seems be using this strategy as well, if Draco
is an example. Lupin said he didn't know 'for a long time' why he
was bitten, and Draco doesn't seem to understand exactly why he was
recruited, either. His arrogance on the train and belief he'll be
rewarded for devotion indicate a certain innocence about the adult
drama playing out in the background.
Now only a few pages from the Fenrir story, we discover the potion
book is 50 years old, JKR's code for "when Tom Riddle was in
school." Finding out Eileen Prince originally owned the book meant
she undoubtedly knew of Riddle at Hogwarts, and if she was in
Slytherin, may have known him well. Now I'm in no way going for the
romance angle here (ick), but saying there was a very large
possibility Eileen was seen as a blood traitor when she married a
Muggle. Whether Voldemort knew about it or cared is impossible to
say, but the groundwork is there for Snape to be recruited as a
means of punishing Eileen. Perhaps Snape, like Lupin and Draco,
found out the truth later on.
Like Draco, Snape saw something attractive about the offer at first.
Also like Draco, Snape balked when the stakes got too high. I think
this is a possible scenario.
Nora:
> We have the 'Half-Blood Prince', however one wants to read that.
> [I tend to agree with a correspondent, who said they found
> it "pathetic and cringeworthy and pitiable and contemptible and
> embarassing - and absolutely perfectly so." But that's a tangent.]
Jen: LOL! As for the nickname, I thought it was meant to be somewhat
of a cynical joke on Snape's part. The rest of his potion book
comments don't read like someone taking himself *that* seriously,
i.e., 'shove a bezoar down their throats'.
Nora:
> What I wonder is whether there were associates of Voldemort in the
> school spreading the siren song of his Dark Magic skillz, as
> well. There's always the possibility of unrelated factors, but
> I'm not going to speculate about what I don't know I don't know,
> when I have shiny information in front of me.
Jen: I wish we had more to go on than Sirius' words and the
Sectumsempra spell to say Snape was hoping to learning more dark
magic from LV. Having *Sirius* assess Snape's personality is like
asking Draco to describe Harry for us. To confuse matters, Hermione
likens Snape's DADA speech to Harry's for the DA! Perfect moment for
us to find out his attraction to dark magic and Hermione draws our
attention away to Harry. I think the dark magic was the initial
attraction and not the blood purity, even more knowing he was half-
blood, but JKR is being remarkably restrained about showing this in
a decisive way.
Oh wait! We do have the old interview comment here from Royal Albert
Hall: "When Prof Dumbledore took Prof Snape onto the staff and Prof
Snape said "I'd like to be Prof of Defence Against the Dark Arts
please" and Prof Dumbledore felt it might bring out the worst in
Snape so said "I think we'll get you to teach Potions and see how
you get along there"."
Jen
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