Dumbledore MAY be alive.... and his name may be Godric Gryffindor

[Tonks]

No: HPFGUIDX 150405

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "xuxunette" <chonpschonps at ...> 
wrote:
> Voldemort's ultimate goal is to obtain immortatlity. (Snip) In 
fact, it could be said that most of his evil deeds, since his first 
raise to power, are merely side
> effects to his quest of immortality.
> 
> And remember what DD told Harry about death? Remember what DD's
> esteemed friend, Nicolas Flamel and his wife did? 
> (snip) DD told Harry, in the very first book, that death was only 
the beginning of another adventure.
> 
> Then, isn't it striking that one of the major differences which
> separate DD and Voldie is that while Voldemort endlessy struggles 
to escape his mortality, Dumbledore is serenely accepting of his own
> finiteness?
> 
> All this leads me to think, putting the possible moral lesson 
aside, that Dumbledore continued living, after his death, is 
unbelievable because it would, at least, be totally out of character.


Tonks:
LV is taking the wrong path because he does not understand what 
eternal life is really about.  LV fears death.  But DD knows that 
death is necessary for life to continue.  Think about this saying of 
DD "death is but the next great adventure."  Does that sound like 
total annihilation to you?  No, it means that DD's soul lives on 
after the body is gone. Otherwise, he would have said "We die, just 
accept it and live well while you can."  The very fact that DD 
expects the next great adventure means that he know that he will 
continue to live in some form after his earthly body is gone. 

Life after death is one thing.  Resurrection of the physical body is 
another.  If DD is indeed a Christ figure, it does not necessary 
mean that he is GG, or if he is, that all of the founders have to 
also rise.  

We see many things in the person of DD. That is why JKR is going to 
do a separate book just about him.

Here is something to ponder, from a modern translation of an ancient 
book of magic from Egypt.  When I read this I thought of LV.

"Man's problem is that in his ignorance he believes himself to be 
just a body, one that will grow old, suffer and die. His sense of 
injustice at inevitability of this fate leads him to hurt himself 
and others, either from the lust for more life or fear of 
approaching death."

It goes on to say that we must accept death and be reborn in Spirit. 
The Egyptian ideas are more Gnostic than Christian, but there are 
seeds there of what later Christian thinkers used in writing some of 
Christian theology.  So JKR uses, I believe, a little of this and a 
bit of that, but eventually will get to the big picture that will 
show that DD will rise again.  And he will do so because he has 
ascended the ladder of perfection as a human being and was not 
afraid of death.  The Christian teaching is that "in dying we are 
born to eternal life".  It is this dying that LV is afraid to do.  
It is not just a literal dying of the body, but a dying to self that 
brings about new life in the spirit and eternal life to the soul.

Tonks_op
who really hopes that no one thinks that I am preaching to them, 
because that is not what I am trying to do.