How HBP could have interwoven into CoS (Was: Re: Eileen Prince)

juli17 at aol.com juli17 at aol.com
Tue Aug 1 03:39:26 UTC 2006


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> Carol wrote:

> I'm completely thrown by this  particular piece of information,
> frankly. Does anyone have any ideas how  the HBP plot could have been
> interwoven with the Chamber of  Secrets/diary/Basilisk plot?

Goddlefrood suggests:

When JKR  informed us all that she had removed all traces of the HBP 
storyline from  CoS it struck me that perhaps the plot of the series 
had changed around  without actually being altered. That is the order 
of events was changed. I'm  afraid I have to say that I do not think 
Dumbledore was ever intended to  have been killed off in book 2 nor do 
I think the Advanced Potions book was  to have made its entrance that 
early.

The basic plot element that is  discovered in HBP is the existence of 
LV's cache of Horcruxes. This is what  I think JKR meant in that she 
would have introduced us to Horcruxes in Cos  (wehich would have been 
called HBP but for the alteration of the sequence of  events), and 
part of the revelation originally was to have come from the HBP  
himself (leaving us in less doubt as to his loyalties). After all, as 
we  now know the diary was a Horcrux container.

Had the Horcruxes been  introduced so early it would have made no 
sense that a hunt for the others  did not start earlier than it has. 
In fact four books later it would be  quite plausible that all 
Horcruxes had been located and neutralised /  destroyed.



Julie:
But didn't JKR also say the title of the second book was  going to
be "Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince"? If so, then the Half
Blood Prince was going to be present and part of the story. Which
means either Snape would have been revealed as a half-blood at
that early point (before he'd even been revealed as a Death Eater!)
or someone else--Tom Riddle--was going to be the original Half
Blood Prince. 
 
But that would mean the Marvolos were originally going to be the 
Princes. Which doesn't make sense, as Tom Marvolo Riddle is
an anagram for I Am Lord Voldemort, which I have to assume 
JKR had figured out from the very beginning. 
 
Or, perhaps Half-Blood Prince wasn't originally a play on words
based on the mother's maiden name, but was a title similar to
"Lord" Voldemort. Tom started out considering himself a prince,
and later became a lord. And he never used the title "Half-Blood
Prince" as Snape would later do, but it was going to be used 
descriptively. This would likely mean much of Tom Riddle's past
was to have been revealed in CoS, rather than saved for the
pensieve scenes between Dumbledore and Harry in HBP.  
 
Well, it makes more sense than Snape being revealed as a half
blood in CoS, or him being deeply involved enough in the storyline
for JKR to put his teenage name in the book's title. And, for me
at least, it makes more sense than getting started on the whole
horcrux stuff that early, when Voldemort is still in noncorporeal  form 
and hiding out in Albania. It seems more logical to learn more  of
Tom's history first than to reveal the way to destroy the  villian when 
he hasn't even his regained physical form (and won't for two more  books).
 
 
All IMO,
 
Julie 
 







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