Scene with likeable James WAS: Re: Eileen Pince LONGish

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No: HPFGUIDX 156318

zgirnius:
> Sirius escaped from Azkaban in late July/early August. His attack
on
> the Fat Lady (if we choose to count her as a 'person' whose
feelings
> are worthy of some consideration) occurred Halloween night, three
> months later. The incident in which he seemed to be attacking Ron
with
> a knife occurred well after the Christmas break. And the Shrieking
> Shack incident occured during final exams.

Alla:

Are you arguing that three months being out negate twelve years near
Dementors?

I think that JKR describing Sirius eyes as **hunted** is a pretty
good indication that he was not totally sane.

As to Ron, well yes I would agree with you if he was **really**
willing to cause Ron's injury. I am not saying that Ron's being
terrified does not matter, but we know that Sirius was not planning
to hurt him, no?

What I am trying to say that for the **half or quarter insane** IMO,
I understand Sirius single minded devotion to get Peter. If in the
process he was planning to really hurt Ron, then yes, that would be
bad. That he was willing to terrify Ron, is also not good at all, but
something that I understand since I don't think he was quite normal
then.

Remember in GoF the first thing Harry notices about Sirius is that
his eyes look different? That to me a sign that he got better (IMO of
course)

Too bad that in OOP he had to go to the lovely house of his childhood.
Edited to add:
Ugh. What's wrong with me today? Second post in a row had to delete 
and edit. I am thinking again about emotional and intellectual 
response to the characters.
Obviously I like Sirius character very much, but I just don't see how 
even on pure intellectual level it can be argued that he was 
completely normal through PoA. IMO text does not support it.

Zgirnius:
> He wasn't 'just' out of Azkaban. By the time of his first attack on
> Ron, he had already befriended Crookshanks and arranged the
purchase of
> a new broom for Harry, not the acts of a totally crazed man. It
> involved both the mental capacity to plan, and an ability to
connect
> emotionally with others.

Alla:
See above. I may settle on **half crasy**, but I am unable to agree
that through PoA Sirius was totally normal. Sorry!

As to Shrieking Shack, I will say that all adults went crazy there,
IMO.


Zgirnius:
And he'd seen Ron's terrified reaction to the
> first incident, and had to be aware Ron's friendship with Harry,
and
> yet he was still willing to cause Ron a painful injury at the end
of
> the year.

Alla:

Willing to cause Ron an injury? Didn't he say that there would be
only one murder tonight in Shack? Or am I movie contaminated here?


JMO,

Alla