Eileen Prince & Grandma Longbottom
abergoat
adescour at pirl.lpl.arizona.edu
Sat Aug 5 17:44:21 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 156563
Potioncat wrote:
> Because Agnes is not the same name as Eileen.
Abergoat replies:
I thought I was responding to someone that said they had the idea
themselves but dropped it when they found out Tobias was a muggle and
couldn't have transformed her. I guess I responded to the wrong
poster. The woman seems to only bark, I doubt she was able to give her
name. It is a reasonable speculation to suppose that Agnes may not be
her real name.
Potioncat wrote:
> Your Eileen as holder of a Ravenclaw relic is also speculation. It's
> interesting, but it's hard to have a real opinion, because there
> just isn't any canon to tie it to.
Abergoat writes:
I cannot argue that it stands on much, but if you stand it on a large
number of very little things (a reason for Snape to be interested in
the healing arts when he isn't a humanitarian, a reason for Dumbledore
to trust Snape that doesn't involve corrosive 'obsessive love', a
reason for Harry to have been to St. Mungo's closed ward, something
that Harry 'knows' that he doesn't realize he knows, a reason for
Snape to be on the 'good side' without really being 'good' himself,
and a nice explanation for Petunia) then does that make it true? Of
course not, but it gives it a bit more of a possibility than idle
speculation.
I even think it explains why Lily was so certain that Voldemort
wouldn't harm her son - the reason she hadn't even picked up her son
let alone run like her husband told her. Even Voldemort says James
fought valiently - and the destruction of the house supports that.
James should have given Lily adequate time to at least PICK UP Harry.
But JKR explicitly states Harry was still in his cot. But if Lily
helped Snape learn Occlumency and Snape had gotten the memory of a
Voldemort attack on his family from his dog mother then Lily would
have seen a baby Snape being left alone - over, and over, and over.
She might think Harry is at more risk in her arms if she believes
Voldemort is only after her. Snape says occulmency is hard to learn
and Harry didn't do too bad on the first try. And JKR says that there
is some magic that is done with the eyes that ties to the significance
of Harry having Lily's eyes.
I think the eye significance is resistance to the imperius curse and
the ability to perform legilimens. Both of which Harry has shown he is
capable of and both that involve the eyes. Is it speculation that Lily
was also resistant to imperius and that she could do legilimency? Of
course, but I think it has a good chance because there is some (small)
support for it. If we don't try to tie the small things together we
have no chance of solving the mystery before book seven comes out.
Abergoat
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