Slytherin Gang (was Re: The Prince and Filch Family Trees

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> > Abergoat speculates:
> > <big snip here>
 As
> > I mentioned earlier it explains how Snape 'ran' with Belletrix
> > Lestrange even though Bella was at least seven years older than
> > Severus...Severus was at Hogwarts the entire time she went to 
school
> > there.
 
Potioncat:
I suspect, if anyone has a family at Hogwarts, the family lives in a 
section of the castle away from the students and if Severus had been 
raised there, he would have spent time in Hogsmeade rather than 
Hogwarts. Bellatrix doesn't strike me as the type to "play" with the 
carekeeper's half blood kid. (Who would have been 5? when she came to 
school.) I also think that if DD had any idea that a child was 
learning Dark Arts at Hogwarts he would put a stop to it. (Oh, who am 
I kidding, DD never puts a stop to anything.)

Although we have the first-aid scene in the teachers' lounge, I don't 
get it as any sign of closeness. It's more likely that Filch is aware 
of the three-headed dog and Snape can trust him to help.....no, there 
is no good explanation for why Snape was bandaging his leg in the 
teachers' lounge or why Filch was helping. Would anyone want Filch 
coming any where near an open wound?

Abergoat:
JKR is sticking our nose in the fact that Bella is
> > significantly older than Snape - so old that one would think they
> > didn't overlap. And this may be why Severus Snape chose Slytherin
> > rather than his mother's house - Ravenclaw. Because Bella talked 
him
> > into it.

Potioncat:
The quibble I have is that you're using one theory to explain another 
theory. I will go this far, I think there was a pre-Hogwarts 
relationship between Severus and that "gang of Slythrins." So that 
there may be a Prince-Rosier, Prince-Lestrange relationship. Using 
the Black family tree, that leads to a Black connection. I suspect 
that Sirius knew or knew of Severus before Hogwarts and that he 
identified Severus as being interested in Dark Arts. That gives both 
Sirius and James a reason to not like Severus "at first sight."

I also suspect Bellatrix may have known the younger Severus. Does 
anyone out there think Bellatrix could be girl laughing at the boy on 
the bucking broom?

As to the Sorting Hat, my current belief (and I have to go back and 
determine who came up with this) that the Hat places you according to 
the qualities you value. I suspect Severus valued ambition. I don't 
think you can just "ask" for a House.


> 
> colebiancardi:
 Regulus is a year or two younger than Snape.
>  I think that is the connection on how Snape met Bella and the rest 
of
> the DE's.  and since the members in your house are like your
> "family"(again, canon), it might be that Snape & Regulus were like
> brothers - and that would explain why Sirius hated Snape - because 
he
> hated the dark side of his family.

Potioncat:
If the relationship between Regulus and Severus was the cause of the 
Sirius-Severus animosity, then it wouldn't have started until the 
second year. (or third, but I think Regulus is only 1 year behind.) 
Or course, Sirius comes to Hogwarts and three cousins are already in 
Slytherin house. If he is already antagonistic toward his family, 
that could play into an anti-Slytherin slant. (Was Andromeda a 
Slytherin?)

Although I think Snape knew some of the "gang" before school, Snape 
could have met the gang of Slytherins his first year at Hogwarts. He 
could have become a part of that gang in the same way Harry became a 
part of the Gryffindor Quidditch team--by a particular talent. I 
think, 20 years from now, you could say Harry was part of a gang of 
Gryffindors who almost all went on to be professonal Quidditch 
players. ;-) That has the "gang" being made up of a changing 
membership, with Sirius only naming the prominent ones who did become 
DEs. It could be just that simple. 


Colebiancardi:
   Also, since Snape knew "more
> hexes and curses" than most 7th years, that would explain why James
> hated Snape at first sight - because James hates anything to do with
> dark magic.

Potioncat:
Hexes and curses aren't Dark Arts. So something identified Severus as 
Dark to James at their first meeting. (Sirius, perhaps?)