Why Won't Snape Eat At OotP HQ? (WAS: Snape at Grimmauld Place)
Hagrid
aussie_lol at yahoo.com.au
Fri Aug 18 02:41:51 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 157105
> > aussie writes:
> > Snape didn't mind being rude and that is why Ron could
> > remember Snape never having eaten there.
>
> wynnleaf
> Of course, at Grimmauld Place we don't know whether Snape refused
> an invitation to eat or not, but it seems quite a stretch of the
> imagination to think of Sirius inviting him for dinner. And
> if Sirius didn't invite him, *that* would be rude and a completely
> understandable reason for Snape not to eat there.
>
> aussie
> > TOLERATING someone that has been an historical rival is
> > a good starting point, but not enough to trust the other. Real
> > effort needs to be taken to overcome resentment, and Snape has
> > always been more comfortable keeping resentments fresh and alive.
>
> wynnleaf
> You seem to be assuming Sirius invited Snape to stay for dinner,
> but was refused. What is your canon evidence for Sirius inviting
> Snape to stay? The fact that people who Sirius *liked* were at
> dinner is no evidence that he invited anyone he didn't like.
>
> Without evidence that Sirius invited Snape to dinner, I don't see
> how you can fault Snape for leaving.
Aussie:
Point taken.
Sirius didn't invite Snape to eat.
Snape didn't look to be invited.
So which occation are we talking about here? About the time Snape is
in the meeting and everyone goes to the dining room excpt Snape (and
McGonagall to visit Figgy)?
Or the time Snape confronts Sirius prodding him to do something with
brains 2nd, but testosterone first. That seems to be Snape's
weakness too ("DON'T ... call me a coward" - last line Snape says to
anyone)
I won't hide it. I have always trusted Harry, Neville and Sirius's
gut feelings over the other OOTP members who only put up with Snape
because DD said so. I have yet to see any "cannon evidence" that
Snape did anything with DD or the OOTP as his motive.
Almost, but not quite, evidence may be:
- Occlemancy classes for Harry (but they failed)
- Snape stopping the curse on DD's hand (but not 100% cured)
Non-evidence is:
- disappearing into the Forbidden Forest for hours while DA went to
fight in MOM
Damning evidence:
- He is alive after DE's and LV quiz him
- Trying to kick Harry out of school in POA
- Stopping Lupin and Black from revealing pettigrew after all he saw
and heard in the Shreiking Shack
I am not completely closed to the idea Snape could be good. But JKR
may have to give him a hero's death to convince readers now.
aussie: (wondering if wynleaf is really Alan Rickman, since most of
his quotes defend Snape)
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