Horcrux through the veil

justcarol67 justcarol67 at yahoo.com
Fri Aug 18 20:34:03 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 157121

Eddie wrote:
>
> If a horcrux object passes through the veil of death (at the
Ministry of Magic), does the piece of soul inside die?
> 
> Is this how Dumbledore destroyed the piece of Voldemort's soul in
the ring horcrux, by putting his (Dumbledore's) hand into the veil's
archway and quickly pulling it back out again?  And thus, this is why
Dumbledore's hand was dead/dying? ,snip>

>

Carol responds:
I don't think that you can put your hand or any part of yourself
through the Veil without being drawn in and, in essence, killed. IMO,
what damaged Dumbledore's hand and arm was a curse that passed through
DD's wand arm when he cracked open the ring Horcrux and released the
soul bit. Since the soul is immortal (and can only be "lost" by being
sucked by a Dementor--"lost" meaning, as I take it, prevented from
passing through the Veil), it can't be destroyed. All that's destroyed
is the container that encases it and holds it on the earth. So, IMO,
destroying a Horcrux involves releasing the soul bit to go behind the
Veil and there's no need to throw it through the Veil (which would
make a lot more sense than sticking your hand through it!)

Both the diary and the ring were damaged (one stabbed, the other
cracked). The diary, which was intended to be interactive, had no
protective curse on it. The ring was another matter. (I expect that
the locket and the cup will be protected in a way similar to the ring,
not to mention that the locket is magically sealed, to judge from the
housecleaning scene in OoP.) Snape apparently stopped the curse from
killing DD much as he stopped the progress of the curse from the opal
necklace, saving Katie's life so that she could be taken to St.
Mungo's for a full cure. (The curse on the Horcrux seems to be
irreversible or DD would surely have gone to St. Mungo's, too.)

Death, according to Dumbledore, is the next great adventure, so the
souls of the dead are not dead even though the person who has died
can't come back to life on earth. Think Orpheus and Eurydice.

Where am I going with all this? simply that I don't think it's
necessary to place--or toss--a Horcrux beyond the Veil. I think the
soul bit goes there, anyway, when its container is destroyed.
Indestructible but no longer bound to the earth, it would have no
place else to go.

Carol, who does not think that a soul bit can encase itself in a
Horcrux, accidentally or otherwise, and that any loose soul bit would
float beyond the Veil to its eternal home








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