Horcrux through the veil

Steve bboyminn at yahoo.com
Fri Aug 18 20:42:39 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 157123

"ecaplan_52556" <harryp at ...> wrote:
>
> If a horcrux object passes through the veil of death ...,
> does the piece of soul inside die?
> 
> Is this how Dumbledore destroyed the piece of Voldemort's
> soul in the ring horcrux, by putting his (Dumbledore's) 
> hand into the veil's archway and quickly pulling it back 
> out again?  And thus, this is why Dumbledore's hand was 
> dead/dying?
>

bboyminn:

That's precisely my theory, or at least one of them. Somehow
 I know the Veil is significant, but I could never come up 
with a way to get Harry and the gang back there again. 
Logically, why would they ever go there? If nothing else, 
JKR has played that card.

So, I speculated how the Veil could be significant, and the 
conclusion I can up with was that it was used to release the
 soul-bits. Now one could suggested that you could simply 
throw the Ring through the Veil and that would release it. 
But I speculated that a material object thrown through would 
simply land on the floor on the other side. To be carried 
behind the Veil, truly to the 'other side', it needs to be 
attached to more life force. Conclusion, Dumbledore put in 
on or in his hand, and thrust his hand through the Veil to
 release the soul-bit contained within.

If Harry figure this out, even if it is unrelated to what 
Dumbledore may or may not have done, he would return to 
the Veil to destroy the collected Horcruxes. That places 
the final battle in the Dept of Mysteries and allows the 
Veil to take part in the final solution.

> ecaplan_52556 continues:
>
> Corallary question: if you put the end of a branch with
> leaves flourishing on it behind the veil and pulled the 
> branch back out, what would be left of the flourishing 
> leaves?  Would the rest of the plant that didn't get put 
> behind the veil die too?
> 
> Eddie, who would like to intern at the MoM for a while to 
> be able to play with all these questions.

bboyminn:

Very tricky question. A plant or a branch has life force but we don't
know it it has soul. I suspect that portion which went behind the Veil
would die or at least slowly wither. Whether that death would continue
to spread to the rest of the plant of not is unclear. I guess it
depends on how extensive the damage was. I dead branch doesn't alway
kill a tree, but if the damage spread, yes, it will eventually kill
the whole tree. Still it is a difficult call in this unique
circumstance. Perhaps this is why they keep the Veil, so they can
perform experiments like these to help them determine the nature of death.

Just a few thoughts.

Steve/bboyminn









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