[HPforGrownups] Re: Why Won't Snape Eat At OotP HQ? (WAS: Snape at Grimma...
puduhepa98 at aol.com
puduhepa98 at aol.com
Sun Aug 27 01:04:14 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 157479
>aussie
I have yet to see any "cannon evidence" that
Snape did anything with DD or the OOTP as his motive.
>Almost, but not quite, evidence may be:
- Occlemancy classes for Harry (but they failed)
- Snape stopping the curse on DD's hand (but not 100% cured)
>Non-evidence is:
- disappearing into the Forbidden Forest for hours while DA went to
fight in MOM
Nikkalmati:
I know the evidence of the timeline for Snape reporting Harry's
disappearance has been discussed, probably exhaustively, but that was before my time.
Can anyone summarize the arguments here or point me to the old posts? I am not
sure what assumptions are being used. Example: how long does it take a
threstral to fly to London? A lot less time than it take the Hogwarts express?
Nikkalmati
>Aussi
>Damning evidence:
- He is alive after DE's and LV quiz him
- Trying to kick Harry out of school in POA
- Stopping Lupin and Black from revealing pettigrew after all he saw
and heard in the Shreiking Shack
Nikkalmati:
Not sure that his being alive after GOF works either way. In Spinners End
we get the excuses he presumably used with LV. Might have been convincing.
He did not try to kick Harry out of school. First, he does not have that
authority. Second, (in the incident I assume you are referring to) in the
Shrieking Shack he threatened Hermione with suspension (at 359 US paperback). He
told Fudge (who probably doesn't have any authority to expel students
either) "Personally I try and treat him like any other student. And any other
student would be suspended --at the very least-- for leading his friends into such
danger" (at 387 US paperback). Maybe you were thinking of another time?
He did not stop Lupin and Black from revealing Pettigrew, he refused to
listen to what they were saying. Never did B or L say "I will transform the rat
right now" and Snape stopped it. He had no idea Peter was supposedly there.
He missed that part of the conversation.
I also do not think he was actually intending to call a dementor down to
soul-suck Black and Lupin. His first statement to Black and Lupin was "two more
for Azkaban tonight." (at 359 US paperback). He threatened to call a
dementor when Black got in his face - to try to get him to back off. It worked
too. When he found Black and Harry and Hermione down by the lake, where no one
would know what he did, he brought them all up to the castle to face
"justice" or what passes for justice in the WW.
Nikkalmati
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