[HPforGrownups] Re: Why Won't Snape Eat At OotP HQ? (WAS: Snape at Grimma...

puduhepa98 at aol.com puduhepa98 at aol.com
Sun Aug 27 01:04:14 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 157479

>aussie
I have yet to see any "cannon evidence" that 
Snape did anything with DD  or the OOTP as his motive. 

>Almost, but not quite, evidence may be:  
- Occlemancy classes for Harry (but they failed)
- Snape stopping the  curse on DD's hand (but not 100% cured)

>Non-evidence is:
-  disappearing into the Forbidden Forest for hours while DA went to 
fight in  MOM

Nikkalmati:
I know the evidence of the timeline for Snape reporting Harry's  
disappearance has been discussed, probably exhaustively, but that was before my  time.  
Can anyone summarize the arguments here or point me to the old  posts?  I am not 
sure what assumptions are being used.  Example: how  long does it take a 
threstral to fly to London?  A lot less time than it  take the Hogwarts express?
Nikkalmati
 
 
>Aussi
>Damning evidence:
- He is alive after DE's and LV quiz  him
- Trying to kick Harry out of school in POA
- Stopping Lupin and Black  from revealing pettigrew after all he saw 
and heard in the Shreiking  Shack

Nikkalmati:
Not sure that his being alive after GOF works either way.  In Spinners  End 
we get the excuses he presumably used with LV.  Might have been  convincing.
 
He did not try to kick Harry out of school.  First, he does not have  that 
authority.  Second, (in the incident I assume you are referring to) in  the 
Shrieking Shack he threatened Hermione with suspension (at 359 US  paperback).  He 
told Fudge (who probably doesn't have any authority to  expel students 
either) "Personally I try and treat him like any other student.  And any other 
student would be suspended --at the very least-- for leading his  friends into such 
danger" (at 387 US paperback).  Maybe you were  thinking of another time?
 
He did not stop Lupin and Black from revealing Pettigrew, he refused to  
listen to what they were saying.  Never did B or L say "I will transform  the rat 
right now"  and Snape stopped it.  He had no idea Peter was  supposedly there. 
He missed that part of the conversation.
 
I also do not think he was actually intending to call a dementor down to  
soul-suck Black and Lupin.  His first statement to Black and Lupin was  "two more 
for Azkaban tonight."  (at 359 US paperback). He threatened to  call a 
dementor when Black got in his face  - to try to get him to back  off.  It worked 
too. When he found Black and Harry and Hermione down by the  lake, where no one 
would know what he did, he brought them all up to the castle  to face 
"justice" or what passes for justice in the WW.
 
Nikkalmati


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