What Came First: Task or Cabinet? - The Plan v1 & v2

Steve bboyminn at yahoo.com
Wed Aug 30 18:39:42 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 157640

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "sistermagpie" <belviso at ...> wrote:
>
> > bboyminn:
> >
> > "Spinner's End"; read it again. Narcissa /suspects/ the
> > Ministry Muck-up is the motivtion. Snape agrees that
> > Voldemort is angry, but never confirms his motivations.
> >
> > The Dairy is never mentioned. And when Dumbledore...
> > doesn't make a big deal out of it. So, the emphasis 
> > on the Dairy is mostly fan speculation.
> >
> > Magpie asserted with absolute indisputable authority that
> > the Dairy was that the center of it all, ...
> 
> Magpie:
> I actually did not assert with absolute indisputable 
> authority that the Diary was the center of it all. 


bboyminn:

And I quote - (post#157523)

"No, he DID NOT. I'm sorry to be so vehement but I can't 
stand having this presented as canon. Voldemort discovered
Lucius had destroyed the Horcrux. His anger was terrible 
to behold. He gave Draco the task of killing Dumbledore 
as a response. ..."

Sorry, but that sounds pretty 'absolute' and 'indisputable'
to me, and it is centered in the Diary Horcrux. You repeat
this assertion again later.

So, we are at the point where we have to agree to disagree.
Hey, it happens; no harm, no foul.

We do agree on something though. We both agree that Draco
was given the task of personally killing Dumbledore as a
result of Voldemort's anger. I say it is because of this
fact that regardless of which version you buy, the story 
plays out the same. You seem to disagree, and are 
unswayable. So, be it.

I still say that basing everything strictly on anger is 
a completely pointless plan and a waste of time. Why not
just torture Draco? Why not a dozen other ways to 'hurt'
him and his family? Why a wacky pointless scheme?

In my scenario, Voldemort has a real plan with a worth-
while strategic objective, and a high likelihood of 
working. And the 'I'm angry at your father' aspect 
doesn't change in either case. Yet in the the STRICTLY 
'I'm angry at your father' scheme, I see nothing of any 
worth or strategic value. Nothing but a pointless waste 
of time. 

Also note that Draco seems to have been given 
some resources to work with. He had outside contacts. He
has ways of getting things done while 'trapped' at school.
Why would Voldemort dedicated resource to a mission that 
he intended to fail. If he really wanted to torture Draco,
he would give him the task, then cut him off completely
thus assuring his absolute failure. But no, Draco had 
help, and you don't dedicate resources to a doomed plan.
You seem to disagree and I am unswayable, and so we move 
on.

You heard it here first.

Steve/bboyminn









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