What Came First: Task or Cabinet? - The Plan v1 & v2/Bigotry or Not?

[Steve]

No: HPFGUIDX 157687

---  "sistermagpie" <belviso at ...> wrote:
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> ...edited...
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> bboyminn:
> 
> Again...no. Your argument is completely flawed, because no
> one is doubting that Voldemort gave Draco the task because
> he was angry at Lucius. ...  I never denied Voldemort's 
> anger. I only denied that it was exclusively based in the 
> Diary. ... ... What I have said is that it is not the 
> /whole story/.
> 
> Magpie:
> ... However what I, and I think Betsy, are pointing out 
> is that that beginning to the story can't just be stuck 
> on before what's written, because it raises issues that 
> are not dealt with in the story. .... A Draco who goes 
> to Voldemort with the Cabinet plan and gets assigned this 
> task is a perfectly compelling beginning to a story.  So 
> compelling that it has to be played out.  


bboyminn:

First, I think Betsy's inaccuracies in her version of what
I said and in her justificaton against what I said are just 
exaggerations do to over-enthusiasm in making her point. 
That is something we all do, and something we all allow for 
when reading posts. But, I had to comment because her 
enthusiasm was a substantial distortion of what I actually 
said. 

Next, I absolutely deny that my version alters the current or
future story in any way. I'm not forcing it in a new direction; 
only explaining the direction it took. It is crystal clear 
that events took place before the printed story began, so what 
are those events?

I base my theory, and yes it is only a theory, on what is 
already printed in the books; the story as it has /already/
played out. I see it as a logical and reasonable prelude to 
the timeline that begins on the printed page. And deny that
it alters the existing story in any way. Further if you do
not accept it, you are left with the 'Draco, your father is
an ass. Now kill Dumbledore or die trying' idea, and I find
that irrational beyond even Voldemort.

My theory brings Voldemort and Draco together. I suspect
Draco thought he would pass the Cabinet information to 
Voldemort and gain the bragging rights of having personally
helped the Dark Lord. But Voldemort has deeper, darker, and
more desperate ideas, and so begins the start of the printed
page. 

Admittedly, the timeline is thin, but JKR has never really 
been good at the 'numbers' thing. There are several other 
examples of questionable timelines in the books. Snape's 
delay in calling in the cavalry after Harry and Umbridge go 
into the forest for one. Though, I am personally content 
with that timeline.

So, I flatly reject the idea that my theory alters the 
storyline or character motivation in any way. 

In any event, thanks for a great discussion. Nice to go a 
week without having to be buried in Snape, Horcrux, and 
heaven forbid, timeturner discussions. You've force me to 
look deeply into the details of my theory, and even at times
cast real doubt in my mind. But in the end, I stand by what
I said, I think there is enough canon to support my 
interpretation. I want to thank all those who rallied to my
support, and give an appreciative nod to those who jump in
to defend your position. 

I enjoyed every hair-pulling, fist-banging, foot-stomping,
finger-wagging minute of it. (no really, it's true)

Steve/bboyminn