Snape as "the One"? (Was: A couple of little theories!)

abergoat adescour at pirl.lpl.arizona.edu
Fri Dec 1 02:42:39 UTC 2006


No: HPFGUIDX 162216


AmanitaMuscaria wrote:
> why would Snape g to Voldemort, or think Dumbledore was 
> sending him to Voldemort, if he believed the prophecy 
> referred to himself?

Abergoat writes:

I have what I think is a beautiful answer to this. If the 
barman referred to a batty woman saying Death Eater Snape 
would defeat the dark lord as Snape was thrown from the 
building some other Death Eaters at the bar may have 
overheard. If so, they'd demand that Snape go to Voldemort 
and tell Voldemort what was said. I think Snape made a 
choice, stay alive (and continue his role as a spy for 
Dumbledore) by allowing Legilimens Voldemort to view the 
memory. The alternative was to risk death for defying 
Voldemort. So Snape's greatest regret may be that he thought
his life was more important than some nameless family. If
Snape is like Dumbledore he didn't believe in prophecies
so he may have thought Trelawney was just 'acting' to get
a job, it would be silly to risk himself if this was the case.
Snape may have thought that Voldemort would dismiss the 
prophecy too.


Carol wrote:

> If we take Dumbledore's version of events at face value, 
> Snape would have heard at least the first two lines, up 
> to "born as the seventh month dies." 

Abergoat writes:

My explanation above works whether Snape knew about the 
seventh month or not, but I do like play with the idea that 
Snape continued to believe he might be the one the prophecy 
referred to even after the prophecy was given. Snape had the 
MEMORY of "The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord 
approaches.... Born to those who have thrice defied him, born 
as the seventh month dies" so the Voldemort could legilimens 
all of this off of him. But the question is whether Snape 
KNEW all of that. From Harry's excursion into Snape's memory 
it is clear the mind holds more than the person is aware of 
at the time. So if the barman arrived as the 'born as the 
seventh month dies' was spoken then Snape may not have KNOWN 
that part even if he had it for Voldemort to hear via Legilimens.
Snape the Occlumens can hide memories from Voldemort that 
Voldemort doesn't know he has but if others told Voldemort
about Trelawney's prophecy I suspect it was 'give me that
memory or else'.

Another possibility is that Snape DIDN'T hear the 'born as the 
seventh month dies' because the barman cast a charm over him.
It is possible that Voldemort got the 'born as the seventh
month dies' from the barman, not Snape.

Just brainstorming!

Abergoat, who thinks that the event around the prophecy can
make perfect sense once we have all the facts...and who also shivered
in Tucson's freezing temperatures last night!






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