Snape as "the One"? (Was: A couple of little theories!)

[esmith222002]

No: HPFGUIDX 162225


> Carol:
> 
> As a faithful DDM!Snaper who trusts that Dumbledore's faith in Snape
> will be validated in Book 7, I would love to believe this 
hypothesis,
> and as I've already said, I'm not convinced by any explanation that
> I've read so far that the discrepancies in the two versions of the
> eavesdropping incident that we've encountered so far can be
> reconciled. (Please, JKR, don't let them be mere careless
> inconsistencies!)

Brothergib now - 
So much good stuff here, I'm not sure where to begin. 
I'll start with my ideas on the discrepancy in the two versions of 
the prophecy. The prophecy begins and Snape is quite happily 
listening outside. DD then becomes aware of the eavesdropper and 
blocks the door (as in OOTP). He also somehow alerts his brother that 
someone is listening in. The prophecy ends and Trelawney comes round, 
at which point Aberforth enters with Snape, telling DD and Trelawney 
that he an caught Snape listening to their conversation.


> Carol again - 
> However, Dumbledore says that Snape heard only the first half of the
> Prophecy, which means that the first of two lines about the seventh
> month would be included in what he heard. Not to be pedantic, as 
I've
> been accused of being for sticking to canon, but here's the Prophecy
> as Harry hears it in OOP:
> 
> "The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord approaches.... 
Born
> to those who have thrice defied him, born as the seventh month dies
> ... and the Dark Lord will mark him as his equal, but he will have
> power the Dark Lord knows not ... and either must die at the hand of
> the other for neither can live while the other survives.... The one
> with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord will be born as the seventh
> month dies...." (OoP Am. ed. 841).

Brothergib again - 
I've mentioned this previously, but compare the two prophecies that 
we have heard. 1. First hand delivered from Trelawney to Harry; 2. 
Second hand - what DD chooses to tell Harry.

The first prophecy is a perfectly constructed sentence. The second is 
rambling, has many pauses/gaps (....) in it, and is poorly 
constructed - e.g. too many ands in one sentence. JKR was an English 
teacher before an author. Nobody with even a rudimentary grasp of 
English, would consider the paragraph above as even remotely 
grammatically correct.

IMO, the pauses (....) are parts of the prophecy that DD 'chose' not 
to let Harry hear.
i.e. DD knows the whole prophecy, Snape knows the first half 
(roughly) word for word and Harry knows bits and pieces of all of it. 
As a result we do not have sufficient info to interpret the prophecy


> Carol again:
> I do agree that there are many unsolved puzzles related to Godric's
> Hollow and, as you didn't say but did imply, the eavesdropping scene
> as well.
> 
Brothergib again:
And the big one for me - how did DD know Harry had defeated LV, if he 
didn't know the attack was going to take place?? Answer - because 
someone at GH witnessed the whole scene and reported to DD. Obvious 
candidate - Snape!

Brothergib (relatively warm in London - global warming is improving 
the climate!)