Harry, Draco and bathroom/ A couple of theories - Snape

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> Magpie:
> And you and Eggplant have made clear that that's your view on it, 
> that injuring this person is fundamentally more different than 
> injuring a better person in ways that I don't agree.
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Alla:

Better person in a sense that that person did not start Crucioing you?

Yes, in that sense I agree. If Harry indeed tried a curse out of 
curiosity on one of his classmates, I would have been furious with 
him.


Magpie:
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 If the author's going to write 
> something about killing, I can see why she chose to use characters 
> that make everything harder, raising the bar a little higher than 
> not killing people who are nice to you.  I'd hope a bildungsroman 
of 
> this length would go beyond just justifying the right people.

Alla:

Not killing people who are throwing Crucio at you. That is so much 
higher in my opinion than not nice to you. But again, even though I 
agree that this is where JKR is going it is still IMO has nothing to 
do with evaluation of Harry's actions here, or more precisely with 
evaluation of how guilty he should feel.

I believe that JKR is taking him on the journey where he figures that 
even bastards like Draco ( in my view of course) should not be 
killed, BUT I see no indication that this is how Harry **should 
feel**, except feeling guilty of his stupidity IMO.

 
> > > Magpie:
> > > Just as it's not Draco's fault if Harry chose poorly...
> > 
> > Amiable Dorsai:
> > Why is it not Draco's fault?  Draco is the aggressor here, Draco 
is
> > the one who has given Harry the choice of reacting or of being
> > subjected to Cruciatus by someone who has taken summer lessons 
from
> > Bellatrix Lestrange, Draco is the one who decided to escalate 
> things
> > to the Unforgivable level.
> > 
> > How do you so easily absolve him?
> 
> Magpie:
> I didn't absolve him--I think that's creating a false dilemma.  

Alla:

It does? You said "It is not Draco's fault that Harry chose poorly".  
Considering the fact that **but for** Draco starting the fight Harry 
did not have to make this choice **at all** IMO, what is it, if not 
absolving Draco?

JMO,

Alla.