ESE, DDM, OFH, or Grey? (WAS: DDM!Snape the definition)
Jen Reese
stevejjen at earthlink.net
Thu Dec 7 19:22:41 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 162508
Sydney:
> I still don't think we see any indecision *scenes* with Snape, as
> you would sort of need to establish him as a weak and indecisive
> character. So far he's been Mr. Snap-Judgement Action Man Who
> Won't Change His Mind About Anything Without Being Dragged Kicking
> and Screaming. With only one book left it seems a little late in
> the game to introduce this vital new facet to his character.
Jen: The twitch? The fight in the forest? The pause while
Dumbledore pleads? I know DDM explains these things a certain way
but they don't have to be explained that way, JKR could have another
explanation called wavering <g>.
Essential to Grey!Snape is Debbie's idea that Snape has developed a
very tight control over himself and a resulting confidence in his
abilites; these two things lead to a Snape who believes he can pass
through the double agent experience 'unscathed' as Debbie aptly puts
it. I would add Snape expects he will be able to continue slithering
out of unsavory jobs that the True Believers in both camps have to
engage in. Instead he will work alone, one man traveling light with
his Occlumency.
Well by HBP things aren't going so hot. He's aware the DE's think he
got out of the dirty work at the MOM and he has company at his little
abode in the form of a rat. And lo and behold, who should arrive on
his doorstep but a beautiful sobbing lady in need of a Prince to save
the day? Combine that with the grinding months of practicing
Occlumency, being surrounded by reminders of his old life, and
Dumbledore arriving half-dead in need of patching up (how much
Occlumency does *that* take to hide) and suddenly life as a spy is
not exactly how he imagined it.
Oh! And let's add the probability Snape already had the DADA job by
the time Narcissa arrives, activating the curse which brings out the
worst in a person and hasn't been foiled in 40 years.
So yes, *that* Snape I see wavering regardless of how forceful his
actions prior or how tight his control. He is starting to slip and
that potential loss of control terrifies and enrages him, the thought
he could ever be 'weak' again. As Dumbledore asks more and more of
Snape throughout HBP (and in OOTP as well), Harry is getting a taste
of what it's like to work for Dumbledore. He has been treated as
special by Dumbledore, just like Snape always sneers about, and those
days are coming to an end with the final culmination at the potion
bowl, force-feeding Dumbledore poison. This common experience will
be a point of intersection for them (like DDM).
Sydney:
> Actually, from that point of view you might well get your Grey!
> Snape, if we have enough flashback material in Book VII. There's
> good reason to expect that Snape's *first* descision making will be
> on-screen, along with whatever Dramatic Scene made Dumbledore trust
> him so much. Pensive flashbacks that Harry can witness would serve
> a much better story purpose than expository non-POV chapters, which
> JKR has used till now to set up suspense more than exposition.
Jen: I see young Snape as similar to Draco in the way he was drawn
into the world of Voldemort though I don't think he believed like
Draco believes, likely he was disillusioned with the alternatives
more than anything else! But Snape was surrounded by the DE culture
in Slytherin house and that along with a possible growing interest in
dark arts could be contributing factors. I don't see Grey!Snape
developing then so much as I do after he returned to Dumbledore.
Whatever happened, and I assume it was loss of a loved one at the
hands of LV or threat of such a loss (like Draco), that was the time
period Snape must have started developing Occlumency skills and was
determined not to let his emotions get the better of him again. His
loyalty to Dumbledore wasn't really tested until the point Voldemort
returns and by that point Snape is quite confident about his
abilities as we see during the Occlumency lessons.
> Debbie, realizing that she appears to have almost talked herself
> into DDM!Snape
Jen, hoping Debbie won't hop into the other camp just yet <g>.
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