Harry and Draco WAS: Re: The Train Scene GoF / Draco's Crying (long)

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No: HPFGUIDX 162598

> Alla:
> > Whether Draco makes Harry insecure or not, Harry sees that Draco
> > thinks of Muggleborn witches and wizards as inferior to 
purebloods.
> > Do you think Harry is wrong here and Draco really does not think 
so?
> 
> Magpie:
> Harry isn't misinterpreting what Draco ways about Muggleborns 
(that they 
> don't understand the ways of Wizards--the Pureblood/Mudblood idea 
doesn't 
> appear until CoS) but that's just something Draco believes and 
says. Harry's 
> hatred of Draco does not come from strictly from Harry thinking 
that Draco 
> thinks Muggleborns are inferior. He's got views on his personality 
beyond 
> that.

Alla:

Oh, I think I got your POV, thanks, but just to be sure. You think 
Harry has a view of Malfoy that stems beyond Malfoy being a bigot, 
yes?

Okay, I guess we arrived to agree to disagree moment rather quick in 
this situation, but as I said just want to be clear that I 
understand you right. I think that everything that Harry thinks of 
Malfoy is based precisely on that "Malfoy being a bigot" and 
everything else ( for Harry I mean, and which is as I already said 
may not be a complete picture) stems from there.

Could you bring me couple of examples where Harry judges Malfoy 
based on something **else** besides him holding his bigoted views, 
something independent from that?


 
> Alla:
> > It does not strike me as you do, so what is Harry misinterpreting
> > from what he sees, not what he cannot see in Draco's head 
whatever
> > is in there?
> 
> Magpie:
> He's misinterpreting that Draco is just as insecure and wanting to 
make 
> friends as Harry is.

Alla:

How would he see it? Why would he see it? All that he sees is the 
bigot who let Harry knows what he thinks and feels on Muggleborns, 
etc?



 
> Alla:
> > I mean, if Harry misinterprets Draco as he is all that, this is 
not
> > that had been shown to him as the opposite, no?
> 
> Magpie:
> It is a misinterpretation, imo, based on what we see of Draco 
ourselves.

Alla:

I know I did not see that ;) I see precisely that - the son of the 
rich former Death Eater, somebody who thinks that thanks to his 
father's connections he can have all that - be on the team, have 
good broom ( who Is dissapointed when Harry gets on the team, etc)

Sure, Draco is insecure in HBP, daddy is in prison and he eventually 
does learn that Voldie dear is blackmailing him, but I see Draco in 
books 1-5 as supremely secure and confident in himself.

JMO,

Alla.