Harry Draco and bathroom.
justcarol67
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Tue Dec 12 20:02:16 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 162719
Carol earlier:
> > the DEs don't cast Crucios in battle.
>
Eggplant:
> Bellatrix did. Voldemort did.
Carol:
Not really. Bellatrix doesn't cast them in battle with Order members.
She waits till she has Neville at her mercy, held captive with his
arms pinned by another DE (OoP Ame. ed. 800). She's not duelling with
Neville; she's torturing him for sport. And Harry, injured and
surrounded by DEs, is at Voldemort's mercy in GoF. Voldemort strikes
before Harry has a chance to raise his wand. When Voldie tries it
again, after Harry is ready, he escapes the Crucio by rolling behind a
tombstone (GoF Am ed. 660-62). It doesn't work as a battle tactic on
an alert and prepared opponent. The DE who Crucios Harry before Snape
rescues hits him when his attention is elsewhere: he's trying to jinx
Snape (HBP Am. ed. 603).
A Crucio requires a downed or helpless or distracted opponent/victim
whom you can hold at wandpoint without any danger of the opponent or
his friends fighting back. It also needs to be sustained by the desire
to inflict pain, which is why Harry can't do it and why it didn't work
as a weapon against Bellatrix even though she wasn't expecting it.
It's not an offensive or defensive weapon. It's a form of punishment
or torture, one that Harry in particular needs to learn not to use. As
movie!Hermione says, those curses are Unforgiveable for a reason.
Carol, knowing we'll never agree on this point but thinking that the
relevant canon should at least be cited
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