The Cabinet Plan...again (was:Re: The UV (was ESE, DDM, OFH, or Grey?)
justcarol67
justcarol67 at yahoo.com
Thu Dec 14 15:07:56 UTC 2006
No: HPFGUIDX 162777
Magpie earlier:
> > I doubt he envisions them having anything to do with the students.
Interestingly, the Death Eater who specifically does express a desire
to attack students is the one Draco admits to DD he didn't expect.
> >
a_svirn responded:
> > Oh, that's clearly a lie. Grayback was part of the group from the
start.
>
Magpie again:
> You thought he was lying? I didn't.. Greyback was involved in some
ways--Draco uses him as a threat to Borgin--but I think Draco's
telling the truth when he says he didn't know he would come--I can't
imagine he's lying to Dumbledore in that last line. I think there's a
point in the scene where he starts being honest with Dumbledore and
never goes back. He would have, imo, responded differently to
Dumbledore if he'd known Fenrir was coming.
Carol responds:
Funny, I thought and still think that he was excusing himself on the
one count he can find that he's innocent of--he knew that Greyback was
part of the plan all along (being used to force Borgin to help with
the cabinets) but he didn't expect him to come along as part of
Draco's DE backup--finally, one charge on which he can plead innocent!
I don't think it has anything to do with honesty. If it did, he'd be
admitting his guilt in inviting Greyback along and being sorry for
such a grievous error. Instead, he's protesting his innocence. Funny,
he does care what Dumbledore thinks, but he reminds me of a kid caught
doing something wrong on the playground and protesting to the
headmaster that *this* part of the misdeed wasn't his fault or wasn't
planned. (I did break on the window on purpose, but I didn't mean to
hit Professor McGonagall on the head!")
I agree that Draco either didn't think of the danger to his fellow
students in bringing DEs into the castle or put it in the back of his
mind, but the whole idea of bringing DEs into the castle so that he
could have them as backup when he murdered Dumbledore is as far from
innocent as it can be. And whether he told Voldemort about the
Vanishing Cabinet before or after being ordered to murder Dumbledore,
the idea of fixing the cabinet and using it to get DEs into the
castle, with all the dangers to staff and students that the plan
entails, is his own. The presence or absence of Greyback is only a
minor matter compared with the possibility of the DEs wreaking havoc
at Hogwarts after the murder of the headmaster. (Draco also didn't
plan on the Order being present or Snape getting him and the DEs out
of the castle.)
Carol, who thinks that Draco's loyalties are now in the balance and
hopes that Snape will bring him over to the anti-Voldemort side
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