All knowing Dumbledore or not/The Cabinet Plan...again

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No: HPFGUIDX 162815


> Carol:
> 
> Carol, wondering how Dumbledore can be blamed for what he doesn't 
know
> or has no control over
> 
> Lynda:
> 
> I've often wondered the same thing. For some strange reason, when I 
read a
> book and a character in the book says "I'm not omniscient!" which 
DD does in
> the series, I tend to believe that the character is not omniscient. 
I
> realize that DD keeps a close eye on the kids and knows far more 
about
> what's going on than is externally revealed in the series so far, 
but he's
> never, to my mind been portrayed as infallible. Just a different 
way of
> viewing the books than some others have, I guess.

Alla:

Well, there are plenty of things that Dumbledore either admits flat 
out of knowing or turning a blind eye on them, so I really don't need 
to blame him for something he did not know - I see plenty of things 
he knows and can be blamed for in my view.

As to Umbridge detentions, I cannot say for sure of course whether 
Dumbledore knew about them or not, but we do have that line at the 
end of OOP - "I watched you more closely that you can ever imagine". 
I am quoting from memory, so forgive me for possible misspeaks.

So, does it make for me very plausible that Dumbledore did not stop 
watching Harry closely? Yeah, it does, that is why while I cannot 
blame him with hundred degree certainty, I am suspicious.


> > Betsy Hp:
> > But that's an assumption.  And I'm not sure what you're basing it 
> > on.  Why should Draco have felt Fenrir was likely to come? 
> 
> a_svirn:
> He didn't have to *feel* anything. He *knew* that Grayback was part 
> of the group. That makes odds for his showing up at the grand 
finale 
> rather good.
> 
> Draco said to Dumbledore that he hadn't invited Grayback, but then, 
> he probably hadn't *invited* anyone at all – he wasn't the one who 
> passed the invitations. He wasn't the one in control.  
> <SNIP>
>

Alla:

YES, a_svirn, yes, I think you nailed it. When I read Draco saying 
that he did not think that Greyback come, I think I was saying at 
first - yeah, right or laughing if I was not so upset with DD 
situation.

What did you think, you twit? You knew that Greyback is one of them 
and you did not think he would come. You acted as if he is a family 
friend, whether or not it was completely true, it to me implies some 
familiarity with this er.... man. And you did not think that he would 
grasp an opportunity to go and have fun with kids? I mean Malfoy can 
be stupid IMO but that stupid? I am not sure.